# Pontiac is done **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611 "2009-04-24T09:53:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 39
**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/39 "2009-04-27T12:01:26Z")
> [@MUTHA F\*%$ING HIT N RUN](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mutha-f-ing-hit-n-run/40212/9): > > you still have yet to point out anything of importance the pontiac came up with. Oldsmobile had several major innovations. Olds put a 455 in their A-body two years before pontiac, buick and chevy. the 68 and 69 Hurst Olds both had 455s. thats the big engine i was talking about. > > the first horse out of the gate doesnt always win the race, This rings true for Pontiac. 1st muscle car or not, GTOs often saw tail lights. The Hurst Olds was not a factory produced car, it was farmed out to a company you may never heard of…HURST. 421’s were put in GTOs in 1964 by Royal Pontiac, that doesn’t mean it was pontiac built. GM did not allow any of their brands to put anything over 400 cubic inches in any intermediate platform until 1970. Pontiac had many 1sts…I actually have a link to PMD’s engineering firsts in my home PC if you really need it, but this details Pontiac’s earlier years in racing… [http://www.pontiacheaven.org/pontiac%20history.htm](http://www.pontiacheaven.org/pontiac%20history.htm) --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611)._