# Pontiac is done **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611 "2009-04-24T09:53:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 40
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/40 "2009-04-27T12:16:31Z")
> [@Drove the new M3(now w/even less BS)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drove-the-new-m3-now-w-even-less-bs/40124/29): > > The Hurst Olds was not a factory produced car, it was farmed out to a company you may never heard of…HURST. 421’s were put in GTOs in 1964 by Royal Pontiac, that doesn’t mean it was pontiac built. > > GM did not allow any of their brands to put anything over 400 cubic inches in any intermediate platform until 1970. > > Pontiac had many 1sts…I actually have a link to PMD’s engineering firsts in my home PC if you really need it, but this details Pontiac’s earlier years in racing… > > [http://www.pontiacheaven.org/pontiac%20history.htm](http://www.pontiacheaven.org/pontiac%20history.htm) Olds told GM to go fuck themselves basically by sending the cars out to get converted. the cars left olds as 442’s and sent to Demmer Engineering NOT HURST to do the swaps. the hurst olds isnt the same as yenko, royal, sox and martin, grand spalding… they were sold at any olds dealer not just one specific dealer. thats not a list of pontiac firsts either, its a historical timeline of stuff they did, not things they did before anyone else. GNX, Hurst Olds, Turbo Trans AM, Aero coupe monte SS, 69 440 6BBL Road runner/superbee were all cars sold through the factory but converted offsite. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611)._