# Postal Service Ends 2009 with $3.8 Billion Loss **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 2, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869 "2010-03-02T05:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/41 "2010-03-02T13:04:24Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > But don’t worry, the USPS is a great example of how a well run government option can coexist with private industry (fedex, UPS). /Obama > > :lol: I was thinking almost the same thing. Government run= check pro union= Check successful/profits= nope It makes me feel all warm inside. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/42 "2010-03-02T13:06:36Z")
:picard: ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/43 "2010-03-02T13:57:26Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > But don’t worry, the USPS is a great example of how a well run government option can coexist with private industry (fedex, UPS). /Obama > > :lol: Right, and our banking system, automotive industry and farming are all picture-perfect examples of the efficiency and success of private industry. The USPS provides a critical service, and as we’ve seen with the above examples, when private industry fails in providing a critical service, the government steps in to save it, anyway. Do you think UPS and FEDex could do it better? I can pay 44c to send a letter anywhere in the contiguous US in 2-3 days. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/44 "2010-03-02T14:07:14Z")
You guys are missing the bigger picture. Just dissolve government altogether and the post office is no longer a problem. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/45 "2010-03-02T14:22:42Z")
the postal service didn’t lose 3.8 billion, they cost 3.8 billion to run… image if the military only cost 3.8 billion to run, that would be amazing. but anyway… looks like they are slashing more jobs: [http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/02/news/economy/postal\_service\_jobs/index.htm?hpt=T2](http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/02/news/economy/postal_service_jobs/index.htm?hpt=T2) ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/46 "2010-03-02T14:32:20Z")
Mixed feelings on this. I can’t imagine how hard it is for them to stay on top of their game with technology advancing the way it has. How much of their revenue was generated by simple letters in envelopes 20+ years ago that is now being overtaken by e-mails, online bill paying, etc…? What else can they do before they start cutting back so much that it ultimately destroys the convenience factor they bring to the public? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/47 "2010-03-02T14:47:14Z")
> [@fiend540](#): > > postal workers are terrible drivers, why bother looking at traffic when you speed away from a mailbox? Ugh, you do know the law regarding postal trucks correct? ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/48 "2010-03-02T15:08:52Z")
postal drivers have more right away than police with their siren on because it is a federal vehicle NOOB!!! ---
**Author:** ![Static](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/static/32/7340_2.png) [@Static](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Static)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/49 "2010-03-02T15:39:56Z")
> [@maxwell](#): > > Ugh, you do know the law regarding postal trucks correct? We can do whatever we want :D. I’m a carrier in Tonawanda. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/50 "2010-03-02T15:42:29Z")
> [@Static](#): > > We can do whatever we want :D. I’m a carrier in Tonawanda. Exactly. You disgruntled drivers can do whatever the hell you want behind the wheel. EDIT: …legally. As long as it doesn’t involve raping a minor or running over gramma you’re in the clear. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/51 "2010-03-02T15:59:51Z")
When they drop saturday service that will bridge the gap. People in my age group are not mailing paper bills with stamps anymore. My girlfriend bought a book of stamps when it was the “forever” postage or whatever. This was like a year ago. We still have half the book left. I jump on my bank online bill-pay and pay 10 bills per month at least. In previous generations this would have been stamps and envelopes. No shit the postal service isn’t making money! The only thing that I mail anymore is those stupid mail in rebates from office max on electronics! ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/52 "2010-03-02T16:20:53Z")
i use usps for shipping alot of packages, got sick of high costs of ups and never really had a fedex around me i cant count how many times ups has f\*cked me on a package ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/53 "2010-03-02T16:38:14Z")
> [@maxwell](#): > > Exactly. > > You disgruntled drivers can do whatever the hell you want behind the wheel. > > EDIT: …legally. As long as it doesn’t involve raping a minor or running over gramma you’re in the clear. That’s all fine and dandy that it’s legal for them to ignore the rest of the world when they are behind the wheel, it still doesn’t change the fact that they suck at driving. ---
**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/54 "2010-03-02T16:51:13Z")
I got hit on my bicycle by a postal truck when I was like 10. The driver stuck his head out the door to see if I was getting up, then he took off. Fucker bent my wheel. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/55 "2010-03-02T17:19:25Z")
then he went WOT with his muffler delete mod and hit vtec ---
**Author:** ![Static](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/static/32/7340_2.png) [@Static](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Static)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/56 "2010-03-02T18:04:12Z")
> [@fiend540](#): > > That’s all fine and dandy that it’s legal for them to ignore the rest of the world when they are behind the wheel, it still doesn’t change the fact that they suck at driving. Yes you are right. Every carrier in the US is a terrible driver. > [@deebo](#): > > then he went WOT with his muffler delete mod and hit vtec Well right hand drive is mad jdm yo ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/57 "2010-03-02T18:47:41Z")
> [@Static](#): > > Yes you are right. Every carrier in the US is a terrible driver. :mamoru: You’re right it’s probably just a WNY thing ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/58 "2010-03-03T05:56:15Z")
i ordered another item from TX on monday at about 4pm EST. The part will be at my house by noon today using priority shipping. Pretty damn quick shipping :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/59 "2010-03-03T06:19:25Z")
> [@travisn](#): > > Sure, I guess. **But I would rather see them be self sufficient and have money to put back into the system** (pay down deficit or to charity, whatever) than it constantly run in the red and cost us, the public, money. :tif: so you want a postal service tax? Dont worry im sure they would spend your extra money in a way that benefits you more than if you spent it yourself :bowrofl: Every dollar they make comes from the public… ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869/60 "2010-03-03T06:29:24Z")
> [@deebo](#): > > postal drivers have more right away than police with their siren on because it is a federal vehicle > > NOOB!!! right away??? :hugepicard: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/postal-service-ends-2009-with-3-8-billion-loss/79869.md?page=4)