# POW has head cut off by Iraqi's.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [May 11, 2004, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403 "2004-05-11T11:04:57Z")
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### Author:  [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/181 "2004-05-12T11:10:23Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> how you figure…they dropped 2 nuclear bombs killed a ton of people and japan surrendered, how would “conventional bombing campains” killed more, or did i miss something and they dropped the nuclear bombs on 2 military cities?
me or someone else?
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### Author:  [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/182 "2004-05-12T11:11:51Z")
> [@Darkstar](#):
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> What im saying is, that a long drawn out conventional bombing campaig on Tokyo would have killed more people in the long run.
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> The population of Hiroshima was about 250,000 people, while Tokyo had more than 5 million people. Big difference.
people in tokyo would have adapted to conventional bombing. And carpet bombing all day long would have killed way more people in the end.
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/183 "2004-05-12T11:14:10Z")
> [@Darkstar](#):
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> What im saying is, that a long drawn out conventional bombing campaig on Tokyo would have killed more people in the long run.
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> The population of Hiroshima was about 250,000 people, while Tokyo had more than 5 million people. Big difference.
yeah but tokyo wasn’t our primary target neither in a nuclear raid or a traditional bombing run…our objective was surrender, imagine if they targeted tokyo with an atomic bomb, you’re story would change then because i’m pretty sure a good % of those 5milllion people would have died
you’re comparing a traditional bombing run in a city that wasn’t targeted by a nuclear bomb…if we went with a traditional bombing run in both those cities we nuked i’m pretty sure the future generations would not be lookign at deformations, lukemia, and still births.
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### Author:  [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/184 "2004-05-12T11:16:43Z")
> [@silvrhand](#):
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> They??
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> You are assuming that the people that invented the technology and tested it were the ones who made the decision to drop it. The tests they ran were of _MUCH_ smaller scale than what they dropped…
Im sure they didnt just wheel the bomb up on a dolly and be like “here ya go boys, have fun with her!!!”
And the atomic bombs that were dropped were pussy bombs compared to todays technology. we have bombs now that would make those bombd look like an M80
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### Author:  [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/185 "2004-05-12T11:17:46Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> yeah but tokyo wasn’t our primary target neither in a nuclear raid or a traditional bombing run…our objective was surrender, imagine if they targeted tokyo with an atomic bomb, you’re story would change then because i’m pretty sure a good % of those 5milllion people would have died
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> you’re comparing a traditional bombing run in a city that wasn’t targeted by a nuclear bomb…if we went with a traditional bombing run in both those cities we nuked i’m pretty sure the future generations would not be **lookign at deformations, lukemia, and still births.**
and stuff like that happens all over the world. how can you say that happened just because of nuclear weapons? yes higher likelyhood. but by the way your thinking, some of america was probably nuked if you look at statistics.
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/186 "2004-05-12T11:20:24Z")
i’m looking at high doses of radiation poisoning, i had to do a report on the after effects on the generations that followed, you’d be suprised what you’d learn about it…they pretty much did just give them the bomb and say here you go. the guys involved in the testing had no idea and a few of them died shortly after from being exposed to the very thing they were testing.
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### Author:  [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/187 "2004-05-12T11:22:09Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> yeah but tokyo wasn’t our primary target neither in a nuclear raid or a traditional bombing run…our objective was surrender, imagine if they targeted tokyo with an atomic bomb, you’re story would change then because i’m pretty sure a good % of those 5milllion people would have died
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> you’re comparing a traditional bombing run in a city that wasn’t targeted by a nuclear bomb…if we went with a traditional bombing run in both those cities we nuked i’m pretty sure the future generations would not be lookign at deformations, lukemia, and still births.
:doh:
Yeah, but you’re missing my whole point. Tokyo WOULD HAVE been a primary target for a traditional bombing campaign. It would have had to be conquered for Japan to fall to the allied forces. How are US troops gonna occupy a city of 5 million people who have all been trained to kill you by whatever means necessary? This includes women and children. The would have had to bomb the ever-loving piss out of it. We showed them what it could do on once city, they didnt back down, we nuked another city, and they backed down. The death toll would have easily eclipsed 10 million, because the US would have eventually had to use nuclear weapons anyways, and they most likely would have used them on Tokyo.
250,000 deaths with some birth defects years later \> 10 million (if not far more)
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### Author:  [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/188 "2004-05-12T11:23:08Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> i’m looking at high doses of radiation poisoning, i had to do a report on the after effects on the generations that followed, you’d be suprised what you’d learn about it…they pretty much did just give them the bomb and say here you go. the guys involved in the testing had no idea and a few of them died shortly after from being exposed to the very thing they were testing.
if you die from radiation poisoning how are you gonna be around to create a second generation? they would have been better off just leaving teh two cities a desolate wasteland and a memorial. atleast till teh radiation went down.
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/189 "2004-05-12T11:24:54Z")
there were a number of children that died at a young age from lukemia from their parents being exposed.
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### Author:  [@silvrhand](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silvrhand)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/190 "2004-05-12T11:27:54Z")
You gotta think a second here…
It’s not just telling them, hey this thing is gonna blow some shit up big time, it’s getting the comprehension of what they were being told that most of them didn’t get.
If you were used to getting fucked in the ass all the time… oh wait you are used to that… wait wrong topic… bah!
Of course I know the numbers, but do I comprehend the amount of destruction on that kind of scale… I would definetly say I don’t…
> [@Darkstar](#):
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> Im sure they didnt just wheel the bomb up on a dolly and be like “here ya go boys, have fun with her!!!”
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> And the atomic bombs that were dropped were pussy bombs compared to todays technology. we have bombs now that would make those bombd look like an M80
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/191 "2004-05-12T11:28:40Z")
> [@Darkstar](#):
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> :doh:
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> Yeah, but you’re missing my whole point. Tokyo WOULD HAVE been a primary target for a traditional bombing campaign.
how do you know? were you part of the administration when we went to war? you don’t know how the events would have unfolded had we not develeped that type of weapon at that time.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/192 "2004-05-12T11:28:42Z")
I am not reading all this hotty totty bullshit. he didn’t die for his country he was a CONTRACTOR you fucking asshats. he was there to REBUILD not FIGHT. read the mother fucking news.
as for osama talking shit on saddam. hitler did the same to the italians and japanesse and they were still friends. I think there is plenty of evidence that money donated to osama came from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebenon, Iran. also why would the al-quada leader be wanted in Iraq if they didn’t have a presence there?
I have no problem watching battle footage but a man in a foreign country just there to help rebuild it being murdered is not something anyone should have to see…God Forbid someday someone you love is murdered in cold blood and it be up on the net.
Like I said you want to see how palestine was created read the bible. It is the greatest history book ever writen period. If you stupid asses can’t read I will be happy to sumerize it for you.
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### Author:  [@HaNnIBaL64](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HaNnIBaL64)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/193 "2004-05-12T11:29:04Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> there were a number of children that died at a young age from lukemia from their parents being exposed.
im not saying there wasnt. and im still saying parts of China are still effected from bombing japan did. read earlier post.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/194 "2004-05-12T11:31:54Z")
here we are on japan. if they would have dropped that bomb on Tokyo who would have signed the surrender? also they wanted to win the war no questions asked not desemate the entire economic center of the country. Again pick up a WWII history book instead of just flapping your jowels
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### Author:  [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/195 "2004-05-12T11:33:22Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#):
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> how do you know? were you part of the administration when we went to war? you don’t know how the events would have unfolded had we not develeped that type of weapon at that time.
dude, stop being a moron. This is a country that had an entire city annihilated and they STILL didnt surrender. They vowed that if there was one Japaneese still alive, then the war would stil go on. To die in battle was the ultimate honor. Thus the Kamakizee’s and shit. Its not exactly brain surgery to tell that Tokyo would have had to fall for us to take Japan. We lost a shitload of people in the Pacific, and those were just stupid inconsequential islands FAR from mainland Japan. The ferocity with which they fought to keep those islands was incredible, we cannot even begin to fathom how they would have fought to protect their homeland.
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### Author:  [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/196 "2004-05-12T11:35:48Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> I am not reading all this hotty totty bullshit. he didn’t die for his country he was a CONTRACTOR you fucking asshats. he was there to REBUILD not FIGHT. read the mother fucking news.
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> as for osama talking shit on saddam. hitler did the same to the italians and japanesse and they were still friends. I think there is plenty of evidence that money donated to osama came from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebenon, Iran. also why would the al-quada leader be wanted in Iraq if they didn’t have a presence there?
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> I have no problem watching battle footage but a man in a foreign country just there to help rebuild it being murdered is not something anyone should have to see…God Forbid someday someone you love is murdered in cold blood and it be up on the net.
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> Like I said you want to see how palestine was created read the bible. It is the greatest history book ever writen period. If you stupid asses can’t read I will be happy to sumerize it for you.
Right, we all know how historically correct the bible is. :kekegay:
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/197 "2004-05-12T11:37:28Z")
dood read what sam just posted it sums it up, it was a strategic move tokyo was never a primary target they wanted japan to surrender not to “drop bombs on every city if the atomic bomb didnt work”
i’m not being a moron, i’m being someone who is interested in history and did a lot of research in highschool for it, they didnt’ wanna be there in the first place let alone fight a “man to man battle” with them, they wanted surrrender not a war.
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### Author:  [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/198 "2004-05-12T11:37:51Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> not desemate the entire economic center of the country. Again pick up a WWII history book instead of just flapping your jowels
While im reading my WWII history book, you start reading your dictionary.
:finger:
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/199 "2004-05-12T11:38:32Z")
> [@Darkstar](#):
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> dude, stop being a moron. This is a country that had an entire city annihilated and they STILL didnt surrender. They vowed that if there was one Japaneese still alive, then the war would stil go on. To die in battle was the ultimate honor. Thus the Kamakizee’s and shit. Its not exactly brain surgery to tell that Tokyo would have had to fall for us to take Japan. We lost a shitload of people in the Pacific, and those were just stupid inconsequential islands FAR from mainland Japan. The ferocity with which they fought to keep those islands was incredible, we cannot even begin to fathom how they would have fought to protect their homeland.
both of the bombs we dropped killed less people that hitler did(everyone knows how many), stalin did (17million mostly kulaks ), lenin did(23 million), and much much less than SaTong did(72 million of his own people).
Saddam also killed more of his own people then those bombs did. you need to go back to school cause you are gettin retarded
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2004, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pow-has-head-cut-off-by-iraqis/166403/200 "2004-05-12T11:39:18Z")
> [@Darkstar](#):
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> Right, we all know how historically correct the bible is. :kekegay:
your religious preferences/views have no part in this discussion, if you feel that the bible is historically innacurate then u take that up with the other history books that confirm the history of palestine.
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