# Preferences? s13 hatch, s13 coupe or s14 / s14s **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [January 9, 2005, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895 "2005-01-09T08:36:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Polkaroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@Polkaroo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Polkaroo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/21 "2005-01-10T09:19:40Z")
I have an S13a hatch and I love their look. Having never driven, or even ridden in an S14, I have no opinion on their performance, but I do like their look. I would take the S13 hatch, because the plans I have for modifying it wouldn’t be applicable to the S14. And when completed, I think my customized S13 would look better than any car. Obviously biased. ---
**Author:** ![sr20bet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@sr20bet](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sr20bet)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/22 "2005-01-18T16:59:30Z")
Looks: I think the s15 smokes both the s13, s14 and 180sx body styles bad. It has a more agressive stance and appearance. The s13’s interior is dated like mona lisa. It needs a body kit to modernize it’s look to make it acceptable by 2005 standards. The s14’s is the best looking of the bunch in north america. ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/23 "2005-01-18T17:14:17Z")
Well, I sat in and drove (for a short period) a zenki S14 this weekend, and I wasn’t impressed at all. While the interior is newer-looking, I find the S13 interior still looks better. Also my doors close with a suprisingly solid thunk (even thou they’re frameless), and this car’s doors closed with a weak, hollow, rattly feel. The seats also didn’t feel as nice, and the guy’s clutch was harder than a priest in a playground. Well, obviously it could’ve just been the one I drove, and the S14 could really be better than the S13, but I’m just telling you my experience, my S13 hatch vs my friend’s S14 zenki. ---
**Author:** ![RD\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a88e4f/32.png) [@RD\_Man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RD_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/24 "2005-01-18T19:22:13Z")
> [@spilner](#): > > [quote=bing]they’re all hot… > > but a retard could fukk up any single one of them, and the right dude can make any of them look TOOO HOTTT word up bing. i have a fastback, i love it. its my fav… but if price were no issue, i might take a S14chuki, modern emenities are nice to have.[/quote] sorry but what the hell is a chuki s14? oh and pop ups rule ---
**Author:** ![missmodel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@missmodel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/missmodel)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/25 "2005-01-20T15:00:48Z")
I guess everyone would say that their own vehicle is their favourite. I dunno about you, but i hated my car, learned to appreciate as time went by. 😛 my Z32 is wayyyy better!! When you go from a z32 an into an MCS14 (minor change s14)…its crap. ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/26 "2005-01-20T15:06:09Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > Well, I sat in and drove (for a short period) a zenki S14 this weekend, and I wasn’t impressed at all. While the interior is newer-looking, I find the S13 interior still looks better. Also my doors close with a suprisingly solid thunk (even thou they’re frameless), and this car’s doors closed with a weak, hollow, rattly feel. The seats also didn’t feel as nice, and the guy’s clutch was harder than a priest in a playground. Well, obviously it could’ve just been the one I drove, and the S14 could really be better than the S13, but I’m just telling you my experience, my S13 hatch vs my friend’s S14 zenki. s14 interior \> s13 interior s14 seats \> s13 seats my s14 \> your s13 :twisted: s13/s14 both have frameless windows on the doors, what is your point? ---
**Author:** ![GreyGandalf\_S14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/greygandalf_s14/32/5475_2.png) [@GreyGandalf\_S14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GreyGandalf_S14)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/27 "2005-01-21T00:32:38Z")
> [@missmodel](#): > > I guess everyone would say that their own vehicle is their favourite. I dunno about you, but i hated my car, learned to appreciate as time went by. 😛 my Z32 is wayyyy better!! When you go from a z32 an into an MCS14 (minor change s14)…its crap. the z32 is freakin sexy, but without the twin turbos and the shorter wheelbase, i dunno, its kind of a toss up, although the interior rules on the z32! leather, of course (most ladies i know like cloth though). care to enlighten me on the pros and cons of the 2 cars? i kinda like the koiki s14 better than a 2+2 z32, although its very close, and i have no idea how an NA z32 performs. the cloth interior on the s14 isn’t so striking, i shoudl post up some pics of before and afte on my interior, and u may have a different point of view solarian. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/28 "2005-01-21T08:34:26Z")
> [@missmodel](#): > > I guess everyone would say that their own vehicle is their favourite. I dunno about you, but i hated my car, learned to appreciate as time went by. 😛 my Z32 is wayyyy better!! When you go from a z32 an into an MCS14 (minor change s14)…its crap. but your a girl, and you drive like a girl and girls look better in more expensive cars 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@Pavel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pavel)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/29 "2005-01-21T10:23:59Z")
I had 2 s13 hatchbacks and now I drive a coupe. I like the coupe way better than a hatch back. I like the way it looks better, I find it’s quiter than the hatch due to enclosed trunk space. It’s also lighter. To Solarian… Stiff clutches are good, go work out. To sr20det… 180sx is still an s13, no need to place it in a seperate category. If I had a choice between s13 and s14, I think I would still choose s13 because it’s cheaper, there’s less wiring problems (I mean little things, like s14 dash removal to get to certain wires, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/30 "2005-01-21T11:16:14Z")
> [@s14\_2Nv](#): > > s13/s14 both have frameless windows on the doors, what is your point? I know, but his rattled, while mine close with a solid thunk. The frameless on my celica also slightly rattle, that’s why I was very impressed by this S13 when I went to buy it. It “feels” very new and solid, hard to explain. ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/31 "2005-01-21T12:05:42Z")
> [@Solarian](#): > > [quote=s14\_2Nv]s13/s14 both have frameless windows on the doors, what is your point? I know, but his rattled, while mine close with a solid thunk. The frameless on my celica also slightly rattle, that’s why I was very impressed by this S13 when I went to buy it. It “feels” very new and solid, hard to explain.[/quote] … :roll: We aren’t comparing minor imperfections between your car and your friend’s car. ---
**Author:** ![GreyGandalf\_S14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/greygandalf_s14/32/5475_2.png) [@GreyGandalf\_S14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GreyGandalf_S14)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/32 "2005-01-21T12:18:54Z")
> [@s14\_2Nv](#): > > [quote=Solarian][quote=s14\_2Nv]s13/s14 both have frameless windows on the doors, what is your point? I know, but his rattled, while mine close with a solid thunk. The frameless on my celica also slightly rattle, that’s why I was very impressed by this S13 when I went to buy it. It “feels” very new and solid, hard to explain.[/quote] … :roll: We aren’t comparing minor imperfections between your car and your friend’s car.[/quote] ^^^all u gotta do is tighten a few screws, window/door regulators get used alot more on the drivers side, thats why they get loose and rattle after time. that is hardly a reason as to why the s13 is better than an s14. i’ve heard s13 doors rattle horribly. Pavel, there really aren’t any wiring issues with s14’s, unless u wanted to get to the heater core, i can’t see why you would need to pull the dash cover?? ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/33 "2005-01-21T13:17:01Z")
Well, I did say I only have MY S13 and HIS S14 to compare between 😃 And I just happen to think mine’s better 😛 > Well, obviously it could’ve just been the one I drove, and the S14 could really be better than the S13, but I’m just telling you my experience, my S13 hatch vs my friend’s S14 zenki. See? ---
**Author:** ![GreyGandalf\_S14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/greygandalf_s14/32/5475_2.png) [@GreyGandalf\_S14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GreyGandalf_S14)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/34 "2005-01-21T16:43:49Z")
hey, you’re entitled to your opinion, to each their own, lets just say meet up with Phil or myself and we may be able to change your mind, thats all!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ontarioperformance.c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ce73a5/32.png) [@ontarioperformance.c](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ontarioperformance.c)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/35 "2005-01-22T00:08:17Z")
> [@Pavel](#): > > I had 2 s13 hatchbacks and now I drive a coupe. I like the coupe way better than a hatch back. I like the way it looks better, I find it’s quiter than the hatch due to enclosed trunk space. It’s also lighter. > > To Solarian… Stiff clutches are good, go work out. > To sr20det… 180sx is still an s13, no need to place it in a seperate category. > > If I had a choice between s13 and s14, I think I would still choose s13 because it’s cheaper, there’s less wiring problems (I mean little things, like s14 dash removal to get to certain wires, etc.) Pavel you just dont like the s14 due to the fact it doesn’t come in your favourite “Barney” color!! :lol: And to Gt Greg I always thought 1995-1996 S14B (Before Change) 1997-1998 S14A (After Change) Isn’t that how they are classified My preference is S14 both zenki and kouki are Hotness, I love my S14 Zenki and the fun is just starting. But as for the S14 I prefer the coupe. ---
**Author:** ![Bero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bero)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/36 "2005-01-22T00:24:04Z")
[quote="[ontarioperformance.com](http://ontarioperformance.com) And to Gt Greg I always thought 1995-1996 S14B (Before Change) 1997-1998 S14A (After Change) Isn’t that how they are classified [/quote] most people classify it as A being first, and B being second edition… then theres zenki and kouki, and then theres even s14 and s14 m/c (meaning minor change) so there are a few different ways of classifying them. ---
**Author:** ![oshiet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@oshiet](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oshiet)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/37 "2005-01-22T00:42:36Z")
I drive a S13 because it was dirty cheap, and I won’t care if I slam it into a wall or pole. Just salvage the parts over to the next car. S14mc’s would be my preference, and maybe I’ll pick up one of those down the road. The chassis is stiffer, and it doesn’t look too dated. S15 is just sex, and I’ll sell my girlfriends panties on Ebay to own one. It’ll take a while, but by then the 15 year mark will come around. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@Pavel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pavel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/38 "2005-01-22T06:47:20Z")
> [@oshiet](#): > > S15 is just sex, and I’ll sell my girlfriends panties on Ebay to own one. It’ll take a while, but by then the 15 year mark will come around. 😉 that’s pretty cheap… I’d sell my g/f. ---
**Author:** ![ontarioperformance.c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ce73a5/32.png) [@ontarioperformance.c](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ontarioperformance.c)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/39 "2005-01-22T09:31:30Z")
Pavel would import russian mail order brides for one!!! :lol: ---
**Author:** ![brocoli](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brocoli/32/5518_2.png) [@brocoli](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brocoli)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/preferences-s13-hatch-s13-coupe-or-s14-s14s/82895/40 "2005-01-23T11:17:29Z")
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