# Prez Obama says 'no more handouts'. US automakers get a deadline

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [March 31, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/prez-obama-says-no-more-handouts-us-automakers-get-a-deadline/123110 "2009-03-31T14:55:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr.k/32/5670_2.png) [@Mr.K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.K)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/prez-obama-says-no-more-handouts-us-automakers-get-a-deadline/123110/38 "2009-04-06T08:34:13Z")

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> [@FS: 2002 JETTA GLS 1.8T 5spd, really reduced price its GTG](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2002-jetta-gls-1-8t-5spd-really-reduced-price-its-gtg/21194/8):
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> That’s a LOT of money man, and with what qualifications? An OSSD? Please. The CAW is the reason why people thought, and still think that a real education is a waste of money, and simultaneously the reason why the auto industry is bankrupt. You don’t pay grunts $23/hr, you pay them barely above minimum wage. If they don’t like it, you replace them.

True, they are overpaid, but not as overpaid as some people are saying (I’ve heard figures of $30/hr-60/hr, which just doesn’t happen from what I’ve seen).

That being said, Toyota/Honda pays the same, if not better. A lot of people were leaving where I was working for more money working at the toyota plant.

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