# professional clutch install :picard: **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 2, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672 "2009-06-02T17:40:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/1 "2009-06-02T17:40:36Z")
nice job psphinx81 (paul) and 05orangess (chris) on completely installing my clutch wrong these are a few pics of it on my car when i pulled off my tranny i have witnesses that saw it like this as soon as the tranny was pulled i can assure you it was not TAMPERED with before the pictures ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270009.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270009.jpg) ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270015.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270015.jpg) ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270016.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270016.jpg) ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270018.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270018.jpg) ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270019.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270019.jpg) here is what the clutch looked like when i pulled it off my car and put it on my kitchen counter the floater plates were jammed and needed to be pryed off a bit to separate them ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280024.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280024.jpg) ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280025.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280025.jpg) here is how the clutch should be this is a picture of it when i told my mom to place it on how she thought it would be placed on ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280029.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280029.jpg) here are some pics of the damage that was caused by the quality work ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280027.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280027.jpg) ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280026.jpg](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280026.jpg) i called quartermaster themselves they asked me if i hired 2 monkeys to install it and said that they have never seen anything so stupid and said that the whole clutch needed to be replaced i have been trying to get a hold of paul and chris for the past week or so but havent had any luck only luck i have had was a call from chris bitching me out for telling people about this behind his back and how it was bothering him (here you go chris hope this doesnt bother you too much) i know that i hired them to install my clutch and it is not a shop so i dont want to hear the obvious of i should have went to a shop if your gonna say that dont even bother posting in here but i paid them to install everything correctly and i paid alot of money for this clutch too i feel as though chris and paul should be purchasing me a new clutch for installing it incorrectly or at least giving me some sort of money to purchase a new one just wanted to start a new thread so it could be discussed here general auto seemed like a good place to start not sure where it should be? here you guys go discuss! edit: forgot to mention while chris and paul worked on my car they forgot to take a bolt out of my transfer case where it bolted to my tranny and while prying they cracked the corner off my bell housing on my tranny more quality work ---
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/2 "2009-06-02T17:45:22Z")
> [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/278): > > Hope you installed your clutch better than that hackjob you did on Mike’s car. WTF. > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/283): > > I saw it and lolled my ass off. > > Interesting fact: > Mike’s asked his mom to assemble it, she did it right. > > Aforementioned: > Did not. > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/285): > > lol mine was done the same way and works perfectly? im thinking someone messed with it and took pics… since it worked for how long? > > dont come in my thread and start shit, if you want to talk to me PM me or come to my work since you work 2 seconds away. along with all the little humpers… > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/287): > > LOL: > > Then yours is wrong too. > > What it should look like: > ![http://www.muellerized.com/images/garage_sale/quarter_master_twin_disc_clutch_evo89_big.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/f/6f0970d2b22b06bae44d93594b83b49a1f720ade.jpeg) > > What it looked like in his car: > ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5270016.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/7/f7cbdba2828f5d21d7228074803ff69270c14fe6.jpeg) > > That is 100% WRONG. > > And i’m sure that all this damage came from someone “messing” with it… > ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280026.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/e/2ee7242b797bec8362a82ea6edf072815aeee29e.jpeg) > > ![http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/justalilskater69/clutch/P5280027.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/d/7d09b26886fbaf63ba4822cc0d6144a2616186b0.jpeg) > > I saw it with my own 2 eyes. The car was DEFINITELY driven with the forks free from the flywheel. The smash marks match up perfectly. > > If yours is that way, you should fix it before you trash your trans input shaft. > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/288): > > HAHA LOL at messing with it and taking pics. Mike could not have replicated those gouges in the pressure plate if he tried. > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/290): > > LOL and if yours is installed the same way you better get it out of there NOW HAHA > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/291): > > It just sucks that he paid him to install it, he fucked it up, and won’t even give mike back the money he paid him to ruin a 1700 dollar clutch… some posts from pauls build thread ---
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/3 "2009-06-02T17:48:56Z")
> [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/274): > > No 9 sec passes yet?! > [@my evo winter 08/09 teardown!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-evo-winter-08-09-teardown/57404/298): > > no clue, i hope to hit 10’s but you know how that goes… > > as far as trap speed, i just hope to be in the 130’s lol thought you claimed you were going to hit 9’s? pretty sure this is what i was told and you also said you were going to beat Emery’s current record i would love to see you break the stock block record maybe breaking stock block? oh wait doubt it since you dont ever drive your car and when you do you drive it like a woman good luck though this year little pauly you will need it (btw if you care at all i created a thread with my clutch, i hope to see you posting in there for your defense) ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/4 "2009-06-02T17:49:22Z")
Great way to ruin a 1700 dollar clutch :banghead: I feel for ya man, but as we discussed its unlikely that this will go anywhere other than creating awareness, also I think the feedback from paul will be minimal, as he is in the garage now “Re-Installing” his clutch 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/5 "2009-06-02T17:49:32Z")
lol @ the mom putting it together right Pics? jk ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/6 "2009-06-02T17:50:21Z")
As a service manager.I would be held liable to replace everything we destroyed for free.As a friend helping you out because they saved you labor.To save a friendship I would reimburse you what you gave me.Financially that is my only responsibility.As a person who does work on the side I have no implied warranty or liability. That is why I leave everyones lugs loose. ---
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/7 "2009-06-02T17:51:18Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > Great way to ruin a 1700 dollar clutch :banghead: I feel for ya man, but as we discussed its unlikely that this will go anywhere other than creating awareness, also I think the feedback from paul will be minimal, as he is in the garage now “Re-Installing” his clutch 😉 not saying this will get anything out of it at all just making it as to chinos request id really like to see what other people have to say about it and if anything show all of nyspeed how dumb people could be :roflpicard: ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/8 "2009-06-02T17:55:23Z")
wow that is pretty bad This is why I don’t do automotive “side work” for friends. Unless you are 150% confident in your abilities, you shouldn’t touching other people’s shit. Fucking up your own shit is bad enough, but when you fuck someone else’'s up, and it costs them thousands to fix, you are automatically an asshole for it. ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/9 "2009-06-02T17:55:37Z")
next time pay your mom to do your clutch swap lol edit: could be an awesome custom title… hahaha “My mom installs clutches better than your mom” ---
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/10 "2009-06-02T17:56:28Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > wow > > that is pretty bad > > This is why I don’t do automotive “side work” for friends. Unless you are 150% confident in your abilities, you shouldn’t touching other people’s shit. very bad only reason i had them do it over myself doing it was because i had surgery and was unable to do the work myself and they were confident, very confident, yet they seemed to fail ---
**Author:** ![letitroll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a5b964/32.png) [@letitroll](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/letitroll)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/11 "2009-06-02T18:00:43Z")
subscribed ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/12 "2009-06-02T18:01:17Z")
Couldn’t you just file the damage and re-install with those gouged posts? It looks like it would be fine if installed back in correctly as there is a lot of solid material there. The silver pieces hold the black posts tight when properly installed, right? With no movement, it’d probably be fine. Or, do those metal “fins” move up and down on the posts? I’m not really sure what I’m looking at. Filing wouldn’t work in that case as the metal would snag on the gouged/filed areas. ---
**Author:** ![steve2k1116](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/steve2k1116/32/5230_2.png) [@steve2k1116](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/steve2k1116)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/13 "2009-06-02T18:03:15Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > wow > > that is pretty bad > > This is why I don’t do automotive “side work” for friends. Unless you are 150% confident in your abilities, you shouldn’t touching other people’s shit. Fucking up your own shit is bad enough, but when you fuck someone else’'s up, and it costs them thousands to fix, you are automatically an asshole for it. i totally agree, nothing against mike but thats what i told him and he knows it. but in his defense everyone on here that knows chris and paul knows that they supposedly know their shit when it comes to evos, apparently not. he trusted them and their knowledge and it screwed him. i was going to have paul and chris install my fp green and other said mods but after one night they broke off a piece of my fuel rail and scrathced my car on the fender. after that i obv said no and took it to mike at innovative. they were mad but i dont give a shit because i paid the extra cash to get the job done right and im happy. my comments that i’ll leave are those and that, one paul you should take yours out and fix it because it’s WRONG, and two is paul and chris you two should man up and buy mike the whole clutch. its not fair that you guys are supposed to be mikes friend and you wont do that. as for the install all i can post is :picard: ---
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/14 "2009-06-02T18:03:57Z")
> [@Clean Baldy](#): > > Couldn’t you just file the damage and re-install with those gouged posts? It looks like it would be fine if installed back in correctly as there is a lot of solid material there. The silver pieces hold the black posts tight when properly installed, right? With no movement, it’d probably be fine. > > Or, do those metal “fins” move up and down on the posts? I’m not really sure what I’m looking at. Filing wouldn’t work in that case as the metal would snag on the gouged/filed areas. i asked quartermaster what they thought with it and if it could be fixed they said it would need to be replaced completely they said it might be able to be fixed but they wouldnt chance anything the “fins” move up and down on the posts and that is how the clutch engages and disengages and they could not be filled and such because its an aluminum pressure plate and with heat they have a chance of moving and not sitting how they should ---
**Author:** ![Mixmastermike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mixmastermike/32/7314_2.png) [@Mixmastermike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mixmastermike)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/15 "2009-06-02T18:04:07Z")
Just curious, what kind of noise did this make or how did you know something was wrong? You would think they could have noticed something was wrong right after the install if they tested it out. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/16 "2009-06-02T18:04:39Z")
The throw out bearing messed up too? ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/17 "2009-06-02T18:06:21Z")
I’ll give this a day before it is all over the internet and people from other message boards come and “####### ###### Forums Checking In!” ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/18 "2009-06-02T18:06:22Z")
this doesn’t really seem like an issue with “knowing evos” in particular. It is a clutch install. Albeit not an ordinary one, but as previously stated, it seems pretty obvious the way it was originally installed was VERY incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![steve2k1116](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/steve2k1116/32/5230_2.png) [@steve2k1116](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/steve2k1116)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/19 "2009-06-02T18:07:44Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > The throw out bearing messed up too? everything is fucked ---
**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/20 "2009-06-02T18:09:40Z")
> [@Mixmastermike](#): > > Just curious, what kind of noise did this make or how did you know something was wrong? You would think they could have noticed something was wrong right after the install if they tested it out. > [@neonglh](#): > > The throw out bearing messed up too? here is what happened… i noticed my car was leaking brake fluid and my master cylinder was empty what had happened from the incorrect instal was that the throw out bearing was moving around alot and ended up tearing up the seals on it and the seals were leaking brake fluid into my tranny i pulled my tranny to fix the leaking and discovered more was wrong rather then just the seals unfortunetely even the tob is messed up because of the movement and is all scored up and cant be fixed sorry for the ramble of thoughts, i am in cali right now on vacation and only purchased an hour of internet and am trying to get as much info out before my time runs out :lol: ill be back on tomorrow when im in las angeles at a different hotel or between then on my phone [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672.md?page=2)