# professional clutch install :picard:
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 2, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672 "2009-06-02T17:40:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 6
### Author:  [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/101 "2009-06-03T01:43:58Z")
> [@Joe](#):
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> I’d give you back the $500 and a life lesson.
Sounds about right…
its like letting a friend borrow your car and he accidentally crashes it when you have no collision…
Its not like he intentionally tried to fuck you.
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### Author:  [@AngryHero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AngryHero)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/102 "2009-06-03T03:10:36Z")
> [@ILC](#):
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> Sounds about right…
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> its like letting a friend borrow your car and he accidentally crashes it when you have no collision…
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> Its not like he intentionally tried to fuck you.
If i burrowed a friends car and crashed, you dam well better believe id be paying it off.We arent talking like 7 k here.Its only 2300 dollars or so. split between 2 people.Hell id make my own Father pay if he crashed my car.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/103 "2009-06-03T03:26:38Z")
This is what happens when everyone thinks they are a mechanic :lol:
This is also why you have REGISTERED/INSURED shop work on your car if you don’t have the skill set involved.
Pauls car sees the road what 60 miles a season and it’s broke and unable to run good track times…maybe thats a good indicator of someone you don’t want working on your car :lol:
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### Author:  [@blk99z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk99z28)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/104 "2009-06-03T03:54:06Z")
I’d bet the reason you aren’t getting your $500 back is because it was already spent on crack and hookers.
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### Author:  [@LowlyOilBurner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LowlyOilBurner)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/105 "2009-06-03T04:02:44Z")
> [@EVOLUTION VIII MR](#):
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> originally price started at 300 then moved to 400 during it and ended up being 500 at the end.
That sucks.
Were these guys from EA?
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/106 "2009-06-03T04:19:44Z")
No response? Maybe they :hang: from the humilation.
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### Author:  [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/107 "2009-06-03T04:42:41Z")
> [@LowlyOilBurner](#):
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> That sucks.
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> Were these guys from EA?
fucking lols
you damn scammer 🙂
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### Author:  [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/108 "2009-06-03T04:45:17Z")
I don’t know either party personally, so I’ve been trying to refrain from chiming in but what the heck. This sucks for both parties.
Mechanics doing side work can be a good thing for people who don’t want to pay $85/hr of labor, but you get what you pay for. There are very few people I would pay to work on one of my cars, shops included. You obviously used poor judgment when you hired these guys to do the work. I’m sure this was not an intentional mistake, although anyone with half a brain would have noticed it was wrong, or at least had the whereabouts to look at the instructions. It seems that either they should be working on lawn mowers instead of cars, or they were RUSHING to make a quick buck.
They should give you the $500 back, but you certainly shouldn’t expect more than that. Their poor workmanship should cost them any money they made, and time spent. Your poor judgment should cost you the damaged parts.
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### Author:  [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/109 "2009-06-03T05:11:27Z")
> [@Carnut](#):
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> For the sake of being a nice guy I will keep my mouth shut. Although Chris has bad mouthed me and my guys before.
Thats class.
> [@LZ](#):
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> This is what happens when everyone thinks they are a mechanic :lol:
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> This is also why you have REGISTERED/INSURED shop work on your car if you don’t have the skill set involved.
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> Pauls car sees the road what 60 miles a season and it’s broke and unable to run good track times…maybe thats a good indicator of someone you don’t want working on your car :lol:
Hilarious…
Legally you have nothing. A smalls claims court would not even look at it w/o any kind of written documentation describing the work being done and the money exchanged. Hopefully they are busy arguing amongst themselves on how to come up with the money.
Call judge Judy?:meh:
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### Author:  [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/110 "2009-06-03T05:19:09Z")
Wow I was kind of in between when I figured this was a friend helping out a friend for a case of beer and pizza and they fucked up…
but for $500 i’d be hella pissed off.
I don’t blame the two “mechanics” for not replying yet… this is one fucked up situation they’ve landed themselves in. People talking about court are kidding themselves, that will never pan out, nor should it. A refund of the services rendered seems blatantly obvious even if you guys weren’t friends, but being friends… fuck I don’t even know what I’d do.
side note: this is why i never help anyone 😉
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### Author:  [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/111 "2009-06-03T05:49:19Z")
If he doesnt pay/respond/do anything…
Everyone knows where Paul lives… :gotme:
Worked with CKY
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### Author:  [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/112 "2009-06-03T05:52:10Z")
A+++++ Would read again
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### Author:  [@95d16turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95d16turbo)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/113 "2009-06-03T06:07:18Z")
i was there for the transmission removal, i noticed the gouges in the pp and told mike about it. i was also there for the first attempt at contacting the people involved and the response from one was “whats up? i dont feel like talking on the phone, ive had a shitty day. text me”
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### Author:  [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/114 "2009-06-03T06:27:40Z")
:fail:
what a shitty situation.
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### Author:  [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/115 "2009-06-03T06:33:06Z")
FYI you do have some recourse. I’d wait a few days and see how it plays out first.
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### Author:  [@Chuck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Chuck)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/116 "2009-06-03T07:46:46Z")
Funny thing is I recalled another EVO owner here on the board took his car to a local shop with a good name for them selves and did the exact same thing. The first said the clutch needed to be broken in , luckly the owner did not buy it and returned it only to find the shop installed it backwards and had to bring in an outside help to install it right.
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### Author:  [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/117 "2009-06-03T08:01:52Z")
Wow, that’s some carnage…
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### Author:  [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/118 "2009-06-03T08:03:14Z")
> [@Chuck](#):
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> Funny thing is I recalled another EVO owner here on the board took his car to a local shop with a good name for them selves and did the exact same thing. The first said the clutch needed to be broken in , luckly the owner did not buy it and returned it only to find the shop installed it backwards and had to bring in an outside help to install it right.
Link to thread? What shops?
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### Author:  [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/119 "2009-06-03T08:05:44Z")
> [@Chuck](#):
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> Funny thing is I recalled another EVO owner here on the board took his car to a local shop with a good name for them selves and did the exact same thing. The first said the clutch needed to be broken in , luckly the owner did not buy it and returned it only to find the shop installed it backwards and had to bring in an outside help to install it right.
> [@DeusExMachina](#):
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> Link to thread? What shops?
one clusterfuck at a time guys
leave the side convo for a different thread
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### Author:  [@Southtowns27](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Southtowns27)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2009, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/professional-clutch-install-picard/68672/120 "2009-06-03T08:09:36Z")
Ouch…that blows…a lot. This is why I installed my $1400 SouthBend clutch for my Cummins myself…no chance for a fuckup. (I understand why you didn’t do it yourself though having surgery and whatnot…makes it even worse)
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