# progress thread: 94gt5.0

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 5, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135 "2009-11-05T12:41:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/181 "2009-12-30T12:48:09Z")

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> [@Wanted : Good cover songs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wanted-good-cover-songs/27851/18):
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> You’re routine sucks, badly. Want some help?

Explain why it sucks?

That isn’t my only routine btw. I do legs and back the end of the week.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/182 "2009-12-30T12:53:36Z")

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> [@Be Safe, Not Sorry...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-safe-not-sorry/27846/14):
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> Explain why it sucks?
> 
> That isn’t my only routine btw. I do legs and back the end of the week.

Training muscle groups 1x a week is not best for maximum strength/hypertrophy gains. How many days a week can you train?

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/183 "2009-12-30T12:54:14Z")

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> [@Be Safe, Not Sorry...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/be-safe-not-sorry/27846/16):
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> Training muscle groups 1x a week is not best for maximum strength/hypertrophy gains. How many days a week can you train?

1. 

Millions of people use the split system with great gains.

I also do cardio 3x a week. Been slacking on that though hardcore.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/184 "2009-12-30T13:00:00Z")

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> [@Boost Creep"](#):
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> 1. 
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> Millions of people use the split system with great gains.
> 
> I also do cardio 3x a week. Been slacking on that though hardcore.

Do as you wish, if you aren’t willing to learn, I can’t help you. In the meantime, email Layne Norton and Alan Aragon and ask them what’s better, I gaurentee that either one of them will tell you twice a week and can produce REAL evidence that training muscle groups 2x a week is better. Either of there left nuts know more about nutrition/training than anyone you know, anyone in this tread, etc.

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/185 "2009-12-30T16:04:46Z")

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wtf travis? im sorry man but u are putting these two dudes on a pedestal and im not sure y.

you can read 1 billion articles saying this, saying that, and saying to smear baby turtle shit on your bicepts 3x a week and u will get not only get jacked but tan as well.

if your not on some serious sauce AND eating like a mad man, DO NOT TRAIN A MUSCLE MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK!!! your body will not have the proper “nutrients” to support all the breaking down of muscle fibers and repairing them quickly enough to train them again.

lets put this into perspective. adam has been training with me for like 3 months now. we train 3x a week. THATS ALL FOLKS! he started benching 135, and is now maxing out at 225 for 2-3 and still gaining. mind u his diet is not on point at all.

train hard, eat well = success.

/thread

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/186 "2009-12-30T16:31:24Z")

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Well you know he (Travis) is an expert on everything there is to be an expert on. Kinda like a jackass of all trades.

I really should start working out harder. I havent seen as much of a gain as Id like to. It seems like Ive somewhat leveled off lately and havent been able to increase weights as much as I used to be able to.

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**Author:** ![LS\_WS.6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ls_ws.6/32/6563_2.png) [@LS\_WS.6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LS_WS.6)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/187 "2009-12-30T18:09:56Z")

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only body parts you can train a few times a week are abs and calves. i never ever do 2 major bodyparts a week. i do light bis on back or chest day and light tris on back or chest day, and do arms friday. like e said…once a week unless ur not a N/A Eating freak

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/188 "2009-12-30T18:45:49Z")

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> [@4/21 - NYSpeed Volume 1 Release Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-21-nyspeed-volume-1-release-party/26881/127):
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> only body parts you can train a few times a week are abs and calves. i never ever do 2 major bodyparts a week. i do light bis on back or chest day and light tris on back or chest day, and do arms friday. like e said…once a week unless ur not a N/A Eating freak

Exactly my thoughts.

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**Author:** ![Hank1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hank1/32/6329_2.png) [@Hank1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hank1)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/189 "2009-12-30T19:01:36Z")

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I’m gonna just try the turtle shit routine!! lol I’ll keep ya all informed!!!

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/190 "2009-12-30T20:27:16Z")

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> [@Say Something About the Poster Above you v.2](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/say-something-about-the-poster-above-you-v-2/27854/77):
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> lets put this into perspective. adam has been training with me for like 3 months now. we train 3x a week. THATS ALL FOLKS! he started benching 135, and is now maxing out at 225 for 2-3 and still gaining. mind u his diet is not on point at all.
> 
> train hard, eat well = success.
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> /thread

Man speaks the truth! I eat like CRAP and train each muscle group 1X a week and have had good luck so far…

> [@4/21 - NYSpeed Volume 1 Release Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-21-nyspeed-volume-1-release-party/26881/127):
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> only body parts you can train a few times a week are abs and calves. i never ever do 2 major bodyparts a week. i do light bis on back or chest day and light tris on back or chest day, and do arms friday. like e said…once a week unless ur not a N/A Eating freak

Another big mofo that knows what hes talkin about :lol

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**Author:** ![LS\_WS.6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ls_ws.6/32/6563_2.png) [@LS\_WS.6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LS_WS.6)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/191 "2009-12-31T06:32:36Z")

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:thumbuplol

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/192 "2010-01-02T13:23:54Z")

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> **[Biolayne | The official website of Dr. Layne Norton](https://www.biolayne.com/)**
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> The official website of Dr. Layne Norton, a renowned prep/physique coach and pro natural bodybuilder/powerlifter with a PhD in Nutritional Sciences.

All natural bodybuilder (no steroids) that almost has his PhD in skeletal muscle protein metabolism. Stronger/leaner than ANYONE in this thread. He’s dedicated his LIFE to nutrition and training, and I gaurentee that he trains, and has his clients train bodyparts 2x a week.

You guys just keep listening to the ‘big guy at the gym’ though. You’ll make progress training muscle groups 1x a week, and you’ll make better progress training muscle groups 2x a week.

Oh and PJB fuckhead, I’m not an expert in anything, I just learn from those that are.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/193 "2010-01-02T13:30:48Z")

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Dont believe everything you read on the internet douchenozzle

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/194 "2010-01-02T15:03:54Z")

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> [@new BMW styling direction?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-bmw-styling-direction/27930/5):
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> [http://www.biolayne.com/](http://www.biolayne.com/)
> 
> All natural bodybuilder (no steroids) that almost has his PhD in skeletal muscle protein metabolism. Stronger/leaner than ANYONE in this thread. He’s dedicated his LIFE to nutrition and training, and I gaurentee that he trains, and has his clients train bodyparts 2x a week.
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> You guys just keep listening to the ‘big guy at the gym’ though. You’ll make progress training muscle groups 1x a week, and you’ll make better progress training muscle groups 2x a week.
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> Oh and PJB fuckhead, I’m not an expert in anything, I just learn from those that are.

travis, have u ever herd the terms…

ectomorph endomorph mesomorph?

unless your a stright endo, eating a lot and have great genetics (which i know no one on here has) i WOULD NOT train 2x a week.

you have to find what works for u. and if im going to be honest here, if your still only benching 60lbs dumbells on flat, i would have to venture a guess and say…its not working for u. not trying to be a dick but.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/195 "2010-01-02T15:11:42Z")

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> [@X-box live gamertag thread\*\*edited with list\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/x-box-live-gamertag-thread-edited-with-list/22265/1061):
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> travis, have u ever herd the terms…
> 
> ectomorph endomorph mesomorph?
> 
> unless your a stright endo, eating a lot and have great genetics (which i know no one on here has) i WOULD NOT train 2x a week.
> 
> you have to find what works for u. and if im going to be honest here, if your still only benching 60lbs dumbells on flat, i would have to venture a guess and say…its not working for u. not trying to be a dick but.

I respect your opinion man, no hard feelings at all. As far as flat goes, I’m not benching 60’s, I posted the other day that I was doing 60’s for flys, not flat bench LOL. I’ll post some new progress numbers for other exercises in a few weeks.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/196 "2010-01-02T15:17:15Z")

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Oh, and as far as genetics goes, they matter more than training style, diet, etc. I remember back in high school finally being able to rep 135 on flat barbell bench 6 times after MONTHS of works, where as other friends were doing mid-high 200s for reps and maxing out at over 350. We all followed the same programs etc.

I didn’t touch a weight for almost 10 years, and at age 26, I could only do 10lb dumbells for DB shoulder press, and 25lb dumbells for flat press, and maybe 30 lbs for DB rows. Only after a little over a year and a half of ‘serious’ training, I’ve multiplied those numbers a few times over.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/197 "2010-01-02T15:17:35Z")

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> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/1537):
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> I respect your opinion man, no hard feelings at all. As far as flat goes, I’m not benching 60’s, I posted the other day that I was doing 60’s for flys, not flat bench LOL. I’ll post some new progress numbers for other exercises in a few weeks.

o my bad.

all i know is, i read articles for it, and more against it. i mean do it yourself. u blast off a large muscle group monday, that same muscle group is more than likly going to be sore when you have to train it again. training heavy and hard while sore isnt good.

if u do light tris with chest monday, and heavy tris with bi’s on friday, this is more of a volume thing and keeping the muscle “goop” in the muscle and keeping them large. i will do this and have done this.

the only way i would condone training hard 2x a week is a dogcrap routine. and thats heavy and hard but…very low volume.so i guess it all depends on what ur talking about

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/198 "2010-01-02T15:22:23Z")

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> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/1538):
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> o my bad.
> 
> all i know is, i read articles for it, and more against it. i mean do it yourself. u blast off a large muscle group monday, that same muscle group is more than likly going to be sore when you have to train it again. training heavy and hard while sore isnt good.
> 
> if u do light tris with chest monday, and heavy tris with bi’s on friday, this is more of a volume thing and keeping the muscle “goop” in the muscle and keeping them large. i will do this and have done this.
> 
> the only way i would condone training hard 2x a week is a dogcrap routine. and thats heavy and hard but…very low volume.so i guess it all depends on what ur talking about

I know what you are saying man and I agree, but for my training program, it does not apply. I train 4X a week, upper body power on Monday, Lower body power on Tuesday, rest Wednesday, upper body hypertrophy on Thursday and lower body hypertrophy on Friday.

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/199 "2010-01-03T13:09:30Z")

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I just spray tan like a mother fucker. It works!

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/200 "2010-01-04T08:38:37Z")

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i use heavy weight, it kinda works. but as far as 1 or 2xs a week workouts go, ull get strong **er** n lean 2xs a week but not strong and big unless ur not n/a. what ever works for one person does not mean it works for an other. 2xs a week is a little much if ur traing hard for strenth n size. leaning out…dif story mother goose

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