# progress thread: 94gt5.0

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 5, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135 "2009-11-05T12:41:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/328 "2010-01-14T19:38:33Z")

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> [@Upcoming MUAY THAI camps...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upcoming-muay-thai-camps/28332/15):
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> Eh idk, Ive thought about alot of different things, but I REALLY want to stay 100% natural without help from anything. The only thing I do right now is my post-workout shakes.

ECA is ‘all natural’, if you consume caffeine, you’re already consuming an important part of the stack. You should be getting in a proper PRE and POST workout meal, with (roughly) 80G of carbs and 35G of protein preworkout, and 100G of carbs and 35G of protein postworkout.

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