# progress thread: 94gt5.0

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**Created:** [November 5, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135 "2009-11-05T12:41:10Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/progress-thread-94gt5-0/248135/527 "2010-03-10T08:43:22Z")

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> [@bike crach today on 90w on ramp from the 33?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bike-crach-today-on-90w-on-ramp-from-the-33/29996/2):
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> Just a couple of comments here… Not that I’m a weightlifter or anything but if you want to be “fair”, don’t compare heights. Compare your dress shirt sleeve length and your chest measurement. A 5’8" guy can have longer arms and reach than a 6’0" dude… People are built differently.
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> The two measurements above are the ones that will impact how much you have to lift the bar for a rep. The other measurement that of course comes into play is the width of your grip on the bar.
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> This is something you can do something about, to an extent. The first two are pretty much set unless your name is Mister Fantastic :lol
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> When you’re lying on the bench, the bench doesn’t care how long your legs are. Being more or less coordinated doesn’t matter either. What matters is lifting the bar up off the rack, down to your chest, then up to full lockout, that’s it.
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> Energy required is proportional to the height difference from touching your chest to the top of full lockout.
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> After measuring all the dimensions and stuff, I think in most cases, where you have a height difference of a few inches, you can compensate by changing grip to make things more “equal”.
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> At the end of the day, you are probably talking a relatively small (5% to 15%) difference in required energy to perform a rep for 90% of the general population’s physiology, and accounting for how they play into dimensions of the linkage made when one is at “full lockout”.
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> The ability to adjust a bit in grip width also comes into play here.

agreed with you, when i was saying “height” i was meaning length of arms and what not. I just didnt verbalize it well. Basically when i was saying height is because in MOST cases guys that are taller have longer arms and legs and such. I also know that legs have nothing to do with your bench obviously, thats why i listed clean squats and presses in the one post, because people use the same argument as an excuse in those cases as well. And ive never thought about the grip thing either, honestly. Thats a good point, i guess i just assumed most of us use a bit more than shoulder width on the bar.

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