# Project Viggen **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [October 20, 2007, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974 "2007-10-20T07:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/41 "2008-02-27T15:00:57Z")
> [@jtviggen](#): > > for me to know and you to find out ahhh gotcha :angry2 ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/42 "2008-02-28T14:26:56Z")
um yeah so when are we going to race again ? ---
**Author:** ![paesanjosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@paesanjosh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/paesanjosh)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/43 "2008-02-28T16:53:56Z")
and nick will have 4 people in his car ---
**Author:** ![jtviggen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/44 "2008-02-29T05:03:37Z")
no point to race since he knows the outcome but if he had the sedan it would be a better race as in they are quite similar, as C & D did a comparison of the '99 Vig vs '99 M3 sedan vs '99 MB C230, vs '99 Audi S4 ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/45 "2008-02-29T09:40:05Z")
actually if you look up the statistics on an E36 M3 Coupe and E36 M3 Sedan it weighs the exactly the same. So the outcome would be the same if you raced a Sedan or a Coupe. ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/46 "2008-02-29T09:45:15Z")
and now that i think about it the 99 Sedan actually has more torque than the 95 Coupe, which will pull a little harder off the line than mine ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/47 "2008-02-29T10:31:09Z")
there was no 99 s4… started in 2000 the b5 that is… and stg3+ s4\>all ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/48 "2008-02-29T10:36:13Z")
yeah good point i forgot that the s4 didnt come back out till 2000 ---
**Author:** ![jtviggen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/49 "2008-02-29T10:38:53Z")
> [@tdi\_logik](#): > > there was no 99 s4… started in 2000 the b5 that is… and stg3+ s4\>all 1999 Audi S4: > **[1999 Audi S4 Pictures, Specifications, and Information](http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/Audi/1999/S4/)** > > 1999 Audi S4 Pictures, Specifications, and Information > **[Audi S4 1999 | FantasyCars](https://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/audi_s4_1999.html)** > > Audi S4 1999 in FantasyCars. The most complete guide to Audi S4 1999 with Audi S4 1999 reviews, Audi S4 1999 photos & Audi S4 1999 technical data in FantasyCars. but other sites like kbb and edmunds have the S4 startin in '00 ---
**Author:** ![jtviggen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/50 "2008-02-29T10:41:41Z")
but like i said there are things in mind for this year so u can say she’s still “under construction” ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/51 "2008-02-29T10:49:15Z")
> [@jtviggen](#): > > 1999 Audi S4: > > [http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/Audi/1999/S4/](http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/Audi/1999/S4/) > > [Audi S4 1999 | FantasyCars](http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/audi_s4_1999.html) > > but other sites like kbb and edmunds have the S4 startin in '00 in europe maybe but in the us it was 00 ---
**Author:** ![johnj](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnj/32/3492_2.png) [@johnj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/johnj)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/52 "2008-02-29T10:51:26Z")
which model pioneer deck is that? i was looking at one similar to that when i got mine almost 2 years ago. i ended up w/the avic n3 though so the screen would be hidden when i wasn’t using it. ---
**Author:** ![jtviggen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/53 "2008-02-29T10:52:40Z")
> [@johnj](#): > > which model pioneer deck is that? i was looking at one similar to that when i got mine almost 2 years ago. i ended up w/the avic n3 though so the screen would be hidden when i wasn’t using it. its the avic-d3 ---
**Author:** ![johnj](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnj/32/3492_2.png) [@johnj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/johnj)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/54 "2008-02-29T11:03:09Z")
how do you like it? the nav has been a big help. especially when heading down to NYC. when i trade my car out later this year, i’m pulling it and bringing it to the next car. just have to see about getting an updated set of the DVDs ---
**Author:** ![jtviggen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/55 "2008-02-29T11:06:43Z")
> [@johnj](#): > > how do you like it? > > the nav has been a big help. especially when heading down to NYC. when i trade my car out later this year, i’m pulling it and bringing it to the next car. just have to see about getting an updated set of the DVDs yea i love the thing the only thing i dont have hooked-up to it is the Btooth and R-view camera and have sirius hooked up and been with sirius for a long time (before stern came on). the only draw back is u have to put in the DVD’s for setting up your route’s and stuff but when u take them out it remembers the route u picked ---
**Author:** ![johnj](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnj/32/3492_2.png) [@johnj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/johnj)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/56 "2008-02-29T11:12:29Z")
i’ve got the ipod and sirius adapters hooked up to mine. im going to add the bluetooth adapter once i get the new car. i dont see the need for the rear view cam though. the n3 is the same way, but i dont mind. i usually just leave the East coast dvd in, since my music either comes from Sirius or my ipod. i was originally going to go w/the eclipse deck that had the internal HD, but just to have the maps preloaded didnt justify the extra $500 or so. ---
**Author:** ![Boosted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Boosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boosted)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/57 "2008-02-29T12:48:26Z")
> [@jtviggen](#): > > no point to race since he knows the outcome Wazzup Josh, it’s Pete. (the guy with the grey modded 9-3) I would think it would be a pretty close race between a 99’ Vig and a 99’ M3? Did you get beat by one? :sad Did you ever find out if you Vig is healthy? Damir kept saying that he pulled you, and I pulled him hard. My car modded was only slightly faster than a stock Vig in the 1/4, so that would lead me to believe yours had an issue or two that needed to be ironed out. I recently sold the Saab so I never got to run Damir after he got his software. That would have been better race with him edging me out by a car or so I’m guessing. BTW: I sold the Saab … my new toy is a little faster :thumb ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/58 "2008-02-29T13:28:38Z")
> [@Boosted](#): > > Wazzup Josh, it’s Pete. (the guy with the grey modded 9-3) > > I would think it would be a pretty close race between a 99’ Vig and a 99’ M3? Did you get beat by one? i raced him when i 1st got my 95 m3 when it was stock performance wise . . . and not to be an ass Josh… but i walked him when we raced. Also i think it was either Car and Driver that had it on there cover when it came out that the E36 M3 was the “Best Handling Car at any Price” im sure a lot of people will argue with that, but thats just what they said ---
**Author:** ![Boosted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Boosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boosted)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/59 "2008-02-29T13:58:13Z")
> [@luvin2speed](#): > > i raced him when i 1st got my 95 m3 when it was stock performance wise . . . and not to be an ass Josh… but i walked him when we raced. Also i think it was either Car and Driver that had it on there cover when it came out that the E36 M3 was the “Best Handling Car at any Price” im sure a lot of people will argue with that, but thats just what they said Vigs usually dyno around 220+whp and weigh around 3100lbs, so I would have thought it’d at least be close from a roll. M’s are nasty though. I don’t think anyone would ever mistake a stock Viggen for even a decent handling car :crackup ---
**Author:** ![OhNoPOPO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ohnopopo/32/6344_2.png) [@OhNoPOPO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OhNoPOPO)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974/60 "2008-02-29T14:02:04Z")
stock the viggen in 225hp (at the crank) and 252lbs tq and weigh 3090lbs… when did you see one dynoed at 220whp? > **[Used 1999 Saab 9-3 for sale - Pricing & Features | Edmunds](https://www.edmunds.com/saab/9-3/1999/)** > > Edmunds has detailed price information for the Used 1999 Saab 9-3. Save on one of 0 Used 1999 Saab 9-3s near you. Find detailed gas mileage information, insurance estimates, and more. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/project-viggen/234974.md?page=4)