# props to my boys in the c-130 gunships! **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 27, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014 "2004-04-27T13:25:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/21 "2004-04-27T19:12:09Z")
> _Originally posted by Darkstar_ > **i doubt there have been all that many B52 crashes at Beaver airport in the last 15 years…** no shit: i been looking for info ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/22 "2004-04-27T19:16:58Z")
that one that landed in the Monongahela river was reportidly right near my house… like with in two miles either up or down the river of my house. just some useless info ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/23 "2004-04-27T19:18:09Z")
> _Originally posted by Darkstar_ > **i doubt there have been all that many B52 crashes at Beaver airport in the last 15 years…** considering the plane needs at ideal conditions, 8000’ to take off, i doubt there have EVER been a B52 @ Beaver county ( the only runway @ KBVI is 10-28 and is only 4500’ long)… ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/24 "2004-04-27T19:18:22Z")
i actually witnessd a b-52 crash at that airport… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/25 "2004-04-27T19:19:28Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_ > **considering the plane needs at ideal conditions, 8000’ to take off, i doubt there have EVER been a B52 @ Beaver county ( the only runway @ KBVI is 10-28 and is only 4500’ long)…** maybe thats teh reason that the plane crashed :slap: ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/26 "2004-04-27T19:20:49Z")
ok just asked mommy :rolleyes: i’m a liar it was a b-17 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :hahano: hopefully i can find a more accurate search for b-17 @ beaver county airport:mad: ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/27 "2004-04-27T19:22:38Z")
NTSB Identification: NYC87LA238 . The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 35903. 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Accident occurred Sunday, August 23, 1987 in BEAVER FALLS, PA Probable Cause Approval Date: 1/11/1989 Aircraft: BOEING B-17G, registration: N93012 Injuries: 1 Serious, 2 Minor, 9 Uninjured. was this what your thought you saw? ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/28 "2004-04-27T19:23:05Z")
maybe you should have taken a picture of the wreck or were you to busy taking pictures of rainbows :tounge: ooooooooo buuuuurrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnedd:tounge: ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/29 "2004-04-27T19:24:15Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_ > **NTSB Identification: NYC87LA238 . The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 35903. > 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation > Accident occurred Sunday, August 23, 1987 in BEAVER FALLS, PA > Probable Cause Approval Date: 1/11/1989 > Aircraft: BOEING B-17G, registration: N93012 > Injuries: 1 Serious, 2 Minor, 9 Uninjured.** > > > > **was this what your thought you saw?** :bowdown: where did you get that info???!?!?!?!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/30 "2004-04-27T19:29:35Z")
> _Originally posted by Shaggy_ > **:bowdown: where did you get that info???!?!?!?!?!?!** this is a BIG difference of a B17 and a B52 😉 btw here is the full report: NTSB Identification: NYC87LA238 . The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 35903. 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Accident occurred Sunday, August 23, 1987 in BEAVER FALLS, PA Probable Cause Approval Date: 1/11/1989 Aircraft: BOEING B-17G, registration: N93012 Injuries: 1 Serious, 2 Minor, 9 Uninjured. DRG AN APCH IN GUSTY WINDS, THE PLT NOTED A RGT X-WIND. HE STATED THAT AFTER TOUCHDOWN, THE ROLL-OUT WAS STABILIZED FOR A SHORT DISTANCE, THEN THE RGT WING BEGAN TO LIFT. HE APPLIED FULL AILERON & RUDDER TO MAINT CONTROL, BUT WAS UNABLE TO STOP ON THE REMAINING RWY. THE ACFT CONTD OFF AN EMBANKMENT AT THE DEP END OF THE RWY & WAS DAMAGED. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: DISTANCE…MISJUDGED…PILOT IN COMMAND GO-AROUND…NOT PERFORMED…PILOT IN COMMAND Contributing Factors TERRAIN CONDITION…ROUGH/UNEVEN WEATHER CONDITION…CROSSWIND WEATHER CONDITION…GUSTS TERRAIN CONDITION…DOWNHILL ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/31 "2004-04-27T19:34:25Z")
[http://trfn.clpgh.org/ah/b17c.html](http://trfn.clpgh.org/ah/b17c.html) ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/32 "2004-04-27T19:36:02Z")
🍺 :bowdown: 🍺 :bowdown: what did you expect i was 6 years old: I seen a huge plane dissapear ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/33 "2004-04-27T19:37:02Z")
Here is a writeup of the B25 crash in the Monongahela River also [http://www.sennex.com/b25/](http://www.sennex.com/b25/) [http://www.caterpillarclub.org/b25/b25.htm](http://www.caterpillarclub.org/b25/b25.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/34 "2004-04-27T19:38:55Z")
🆒 But i didnt see that one :booty: ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/35 "2004-04-27T19:39:08Z")
> _Originally posted by Shaggy_ > **🍺 :bowdown: 🍺 :bowdown:** > > > > **what did you expect i was 6 years old: I seen a huge plane dissapear** haha do you know how big a B52 is? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/36 "2004-04-27T19:40:14Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_ > **haha** > > > > **do you know how big a B52 is? 🙂** bigger than a b-17 :tounge: ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/37 "2004-04-27T19:43:21Z")
[QUOTE]_Originally posted by Shaggy_ **bigger than a b-17 :tounge:** [QUOTE] B17 Span… 103 ft. 9 in. Length…74 ft. 9 in B52 Wingspan… 185ft Length… 159ft 4in Height… 40ft 8in ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/38 "2004-04-27T19:48:34Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_ > **[QUOTE]_Originally posted by Shaggy_ > [B]bigger than a b-17 :tounge:** [QUOTE] > > B17 > Span… 103 ft. 9 in. > Length…74 ft. 9 in > > B52 > Wingspan… 185ft > Length… 159ft 4in > Height… 40ft 8in [/B] so wheres the difference in weight 😕 :tounge: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/39 "2004-04-27T19:52:35Z")
> _Originally posted by Shaggy_ > **so wheres the difference in weight 😕 :tounge: 😃** B17 Gross Weight… 48,726 lbs B52 Gross Weight… 488,000 lbs :finger: ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014/40 "2004-04-27T19:55:16Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_ > **B17 > Gross Weight… 48,726 lbs** > > > > B52 > Gross Weight… 488,000 lbs > > **:finger:** so how much HORSE POWER difference are we talkin here… 🤣 🤣 😉 dont worry im joking:D [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/props-to-my-boys-in-the-c-130-gunships/166014.md?page=3)