# pros/cons: Mazda Vs VW **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 7, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269 "2006-07-07T17:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/21 "2006-07-07T22:36:31Z")
> [@ghettostyleTA](#): > > hey, he repainted it and got rid of the spoiler > > i won’t say shit about anything he says til at least '07 for that Yeah, the new pics of his car do look a ton better than the old pics. (I’ve never seen it in person.) His post just annoyed me. > [@K Cuv](#): > > the jetta 1.8t is one of the least exciting, slowest cars…ever. > for the money you would be spending on either of these cars you could get … well, pretty much anything would be better. I’m the first to admit that VW’s have issues, but I get annoyed at all the anti-VW bandwagoners. You can quantify excitement however you want. A mildly modded 1.8T is not slow. It’s not “fast”, but last I checked a car that can run mid 14’s is not the slowest car ever. Don’t get the Jetta if you want zero problems. But I think of VW’s as macro-reliable, just not micro-reliable. You’ll have small BS along the way, but the motor will not grenade like your truck did. (The 1.8T is stout as hell.) You won’t be breaking transmissions. The anodized steel body won’t rust. They’re very safe cars. The 1.8T responds well to modding. etc. etc. etc. No it doesn’t have the build quality of a Japanese car, but it does have a lot going for it. They’re comfy as hell. You can easily put 200k on these cars as long as you’re willing to maintain them and deal with the occassional repair. I must be tired and cranky. I’ve got a case of sandy VW vag… ---
**Author:** ![\_nails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/58956e/32.png) [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/22 "2006-07-08T00:25:01Z")
> [@neurokinetik](#): > > Step 1: Buy Mazda 6 > Step 2: Run two auto-xs with it > Step 3: Join Mazda Motorsports > Step 4: Get all of your OEM parts and many aftermarket upgrades at or below dealer cost. > Step 5: Keep your membership by running at least two auto-xs per year. > > Try that with your VW… > > BTW, Mazda pays contingency money for race wins, EVEN DRAG RACING at sanctioned events. is this true? all mazdas? ---
**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/23 "2006-07-08T00:39:56Z")
the mazda 6 is a bit too large for me. if you are looking at cars that big then you should look at passats. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/24 "2006-07-08T05:04:36Z")
if your are only looking at mid teens, why the 6 and not the 3? you’re looking at the wrong cars ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/25 "2006-07-08T05:07:28Z")
Never ever, ever, ever, buy FWD. My 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![Sc1chik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sc1chik/32/7243_2.png) [@Sc1chik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sc1chik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/26 "2006-07-08T07:31:52Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > if your are only looking at mid teens, why the 6 and not the 3? > > you’re looking at the wrong cars yeah, i was just thinking that. the mazda3 5spd is nice i test drove one a couple months ago. ---
**Author:** ![\_nails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/58956e/32.png) [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/27 "2006-07-08T09:42:26Z")
> [@Sc1chik](#): > > yeah, i was just thinking that. > > the mazda3 5spd is nice i test drove one a couple months ago. yeah the mazda3 2.3 SE or SP or something has this really nice brown leather. i usually despise leather to the upmost but this looks and feels nice. ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/28 "2006-07-08T11:32:11Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > But in all honesty what are you looking for in a car? > Comfort? Reliability? Style? Speed? Uniqueness? Something to last you 5+ years? Practicality? well, im looking for a 4 dooe sedan, has decent power, can be slightly modded easily to mkae more power, handles good, looks good, is reliable, fun to drive, and practical. for those of you who have met me, u kno that i am a bigger guy (quite tall and fairly ‘built’ i guess u could say), which is possibly why i have been driving pickup trucks (it is, however, that i did somehow manage to shoehorn myself into my Porsche 944). i kno the VW Jetta and Mazda 6 are a strange comparison, but when i looked at the Jetta, i found it to be very comfortable for my size. i dont really give a shit about the backseat (because i will never be sitting back there, and if people who are dont like it, fuck them they can drive thier own car!) or the truck space (because i dont golf lol). there are a lot of things that i dont like about the Mazda 3 stylistcally (everything but the front clip lol) and it seems too small. basically, i want something that i can drive for a few years and be happy with. sidenote: What I Don’t Want: -NO HONDAS!!! -no SUVs ---
**Author:** ![avs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@avs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/avs)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/29 "2006-07-08T14:59:45Z")
Mazda 6 gets my vote. Did you look into the MS6? They’re currently running special promotion rate (.9, 1.9 and 2.9%). ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/30 "2006-07-08T14:59:47Z")
> [@K Cuv](#): > > the jetta 1.8t is one of the least exciting, slowest cars…ever. > for the money you would be spending on either of these cars you could get … well, pretty much anything would be better. didnt i race you with my jetta 1.8t and beat you? it was a red 300zx with big wing and white stripes… ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/31 "2006-07-09T07:14:54Z")
> [@MikeRi24](#): > > well, im looking for a 4 dooe sedan, has decent power, can be slightly modded easily to mkae more power, handles good, looks good, is reliable, fun to drive, and practical. both cars your looking at (with the posted engine options) dont fit your criteria. neither will make any decent power without throwing gobs of cash at them. i stand by mt statement that you are looking at the wrong cars. i really dont understand how you dont like the 3, but like the 6. the 3 looks very similar to the 6, only not bloated. look at what i quoted… see it? now go buy a used SRT4 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/32 "2006-07-09T08:28:55Z")
I have owned a mazda 6 V-6 5-Speed for almost 3 years now. I have it slightly modded, I autocross… and I still enjoy my car 🙂 I have 48000 miles, and she is still running very strong. If you have any specific questions, comments, concerns, etc… just shoot me a PM. I’d be glad to help ya out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/33 "2006-07-09T08:34:46Z")
[http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car\_id=196216408&dealer\_id=57465463&car\_year=2004&mod\_bookmark\_id=null&search\_type=both&num\_records=&make=MAZDA&distance=50&model=MAZDA6&address=14227&certified=&advanced=&max\_price=16000&bkms=1152458885225&min\_price=1&end\_year=2004&start\_year=2004&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=15](http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=196216408&dealer_id=57465463&car_year=2004&mod_bookmark_id=null&search_type=both&num_records=&make=MAZDA&distance=50&model=MAZDA6&address=14227&certified=&advanced=&max_price=16000&bkms=1152458885225&min_price=1&end_year=2004&start_year=2004&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=15) done deal. I can’t speak for the transmissions in those but i know that the engines are very relaible and will out last the car. just rember 5K oil change not 3K it saves the customer money 🙂 low maintnance \> \* ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/34 "2006-07-09T09:23:36Z")
> [@somedude](#): > > [http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car\_id=196216408&dealer\_id=57465463&car\_year=2004&mod\_bookmark\_id=null&search\_type=both&num\_records=&make=MAZDA&distance=50&model=MAZDA6&address=14227&certified=&advanced=&max\_price=16000&bkms=1152458885225&min\_price=1&end\_year=2004&start\_year=2004&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=15](http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=196216408&dealer_id=57465463&car_year=2004&mod_bookmark_id=null&search_type=both&num_records=&make=MAZDA&distance=50&model=MAZDA6&address=14227&certified=&advanced=&max_price=16000&bkms=1152458885225&min_price=1&end_year=2004&start_year=2004&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=15) > > done deal. I can’t speak for the transmissions in those but i know that the engines are very relaible and will out last the car. just rember 5K oil change not 3K it saves the customer money 🙂 low maintnance \> \* i did see that on autotrader last week, actually. once i get done taking my engine out of my truck and have it sent off to be rebuilt, i should have some time this week to go look into that as well as a few other things. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/35 "2006-07-09T12:17:01Z")
don’t buy a 6. Mazda6 & “decent power” does not compute. My sister has had a 2.3 M6 for the last year or so… I can outrun it with my wifes 2.4L alero. Nearly outhandle it too. I test drove a couple of M6 V6’s when getting rid of my trailblazer last month… NOT MUCH better. Still too heavy and unresponsive. Not enough aftermarket support for what You seem to be looking for. And… Dont but a 1.8 VW. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/36 "2006-07-09T12:28:41Z")
i’m not suprised that the 2.3 is slow its only 160hp right? what i don’t understand is why mazda lists the V6 for having 215hp and why the ford fusion lists it for 221 i doubt anything is different on the engines. while its not a huge power maker they do ahve a good suspention and brake after market, but just like any car teh V6 doesn’t get the modders love. ---
**Author:** ![Sc1chik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sc1chik/32/7243_2.png) [@Sc1chik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sc1chik)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/37 "2006-07-09T13:02:36Z")
wait it out for the mazdaspeed3? ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/38 "2006-07-09T13:10:06Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > now go buy a used SRT4 > 🙂 F T W /thread ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/39 "2006-07-09T13:14:27Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > don’t buy a 6. Mazda6 & “decent power” does not compute. My sister has had a 2.3 M6 for the last year or so… I can outrun it with my wifes 2.4L alero. Nearly outhandle it too. > I test drove a couple of M6 V6’s when getting rid of my trailblazer last month… NOT MUCH better. Still too heavy and unresponsive. Not enough aftermarket support for what You seem to be looking for. > > And… Dont but a 1.8 VW. Not enough aftermarket support? Here is one store that has a lot of the items… [http://therpmstore.com](http://therpmstore.com) The only thing that really hasn’t completely taken off with the 6 cylinder version is a turbo, only because of the computer system. But, besides that… there are tons of parts available… If you want to find out more, you can go to: [http://mazda6club.com](http://mazda6club.com) [http://mazda6tech.com](http://mazda6tech.com) Two great sites I venture to often ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269/40 "2006-07-09T14:21:07Z")
[Volvo S60 5 speed AWD](http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=202733398&dealer_id=1362540&car_year=2002&model=&num_records=&bkms=1152479822849&make2=sel_one&lang=en&isp=y&start_year=1981&mod_bookmark_id=null&engine=&certified=&fuel=&search_type=both&distance=300&make=VOLVO&color=&min_price=1&drive=&max_mileage=&address=14150&advanced=y&end_year=2007&doors=&transmission=Manual&max_price=16000&cardist=300) turbo, 86k but it’s a volvo so should have an easy 100k left without much trouble. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pros-cons-mazda-vs-vw/14269.md?page=3)