# PS rack without PS? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 24, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884 "2007-09-24T14:09:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elgarvo616](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/elgarvo616/32/5017_2.png) [@elgarvo616](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/elgarvo616)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/1 "2007-09-24T14:09:44Z")
So, my power steering pump is fucked. like most from my demographic (college student), Im broke and cant really afford a new power steering pump ATM. My question is, can i mess the steering rack up by running it without the pump? ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/2 "2007-09-24T14:22:30Z")
Keep fluid in it and pull the belt off of the pump and it will not hurt anything. Plus you can build some sweet forearm muscle. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/3 "2007-09-24T15:05:35Z")
You have to drain some of the fluid out if the rack or else you will be fighting against too much pressure. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/4 "2007-09-24T15:08:34Z")
[quote=“ezfd,post:3,topic:35884"”] You have to drain some of the fluid out if the rack or else you will be fighting against too much pressure. [/quote] You don’t run the rack dry you loop the powersteering lines… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/5 "2007-09-24T15:11:40Z")
[quote=“FormulaLS1,post:4,topic:35884"”] You don’t run the rack dry you loop the powersteering lines… [/quote] +1 ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/6 "2007-09-24T15:15:05Z")
[quote=“FormulaLS1,post:4,topic:35884"”] You don’t run the rack dry you loop the powersteering lines… [/quote] What he said ---
**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/7 "2007-09-24T17:13:25Z")
i ran my 91 ka for ~3000 miles and ~8 months with no fluid and the pump still spinning. didnt hurt anything ---
**Author:** ![TRP951](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TRP951](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TRP951)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/8 "2007-09-24T18:08:02Z")
ive been running my 951 for a year or so like that. Its not that bad when you get used to it ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/9 "2007-09-24T18:36:53Z")
i removed the pump and looped the lines in the fd, at first i left the fluid in the rack and it was pretty tuff to turn, so i drained out most of it. I made sure to leave enough for lubrication and it seems to work fine now, i really dont even miss it unless i’m parellel parking. ---
**Author:** ![elgarvo616](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/elgarvo616/32/5017_2.png) [@elgarvo616](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/elgarvo616)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ps-rack-without-ps/35884/10 "2007-09-24T18:47:13Z")
alright, thanks for the info guys.