# Public Education System **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 21, 2006, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-education-system/13602 "2006-06-21T09:58:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 107
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-education-system/13602/107 "2006-06-21T17:27:24Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Yes, but that’s more of the fairy tale land talk right there. It’s Elliott Spitzer in a nutshell really. I want to increase funding for this, that and the other thing, but cut taxes too. It sounds great, and stupid people buy into it, but you need only look at history to see what happens. The spend part happens, there is a shortfall, and taxes go up to make up for it. We can cut spending from elsewhere…but more importantly we can revamp tons of our federal departments to make them more efficient. I wouldn’t mind deficit spending in the SHORT term to reorganize as long as there’s solid evidence that we’ll get a surplus to pay for it within 10 years. If we can’t do that a temporary raise in taxes (or cut to major programs like the defense budget) to pay for the re-organization is necessary. Shit let’s really crack down on pork spending. Because with a more educated voting public, candidates serious about improving america wont need stupid pork local projects to get elected. > [@JayS](#): > > You want to take all the money we’re dumping in Iraq and put it toward education, fine by me. Show me a real plan on how to get out of there that won’t result in us just going back in five years when it’s ten times worse and I’ll vote for it. And please don’t give me, “well I wouldn’t be there in the first place”. Both our parties voted to go, so we’re both responsible for getting out. Even regardless that fact, you can’t change the past. Getting up there like Hillary and John and saying, “I want a timetable for leaving” doesn’t solve the problem. First, I don’t want to spend the money we’re spending in Iraq on education, I was just showing what that ammount of money can buy. Why don’t I want to spend this money? Because we don’t have it to spend. Secondly, I like Bidens ideas on Iraq. At the same time we can use your arguments in this thread in Iraq…let’s FORCE them to be responsible. > [@JayS](#): > > Shouldn’t we first audit the system and find out why they aren’t able to produce bright young minds with the same or more money? Yes, absolutely…but at the end of the day, I think schools might still be underfunded. The model for public schools should be the BEST private schools in the country. As for unions, like I said before teachers shouldn’t need a union…we should pay them so much and give them so many benefits they should never have to worry. Education is everything. We don’t need little changes. We need gigantic monumental changes. Schools should be palaces. The competition for the best teachers should be fierce. They should be making six-figure salaries. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-education-system/13602)._