# Public Education System

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**Created:** [June 21, 2006, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-education-system/13602 "2006-06-21T09:58:26Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-education-system/13602/48 "2006-06-21T11:19:42Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> The best teacher in the world won’t make a bit of difference to a kid who has been raised to think an education is a waste of time. You can only learn from someone you respect, and there are way too many kids, inner city especially, that have never been taught the meaning of the word. It’s evident in the test scores and in the violence. It all boils down to very core beliefs, something you’ve picked up long before a teacher even gets a shot at you. By the time a teacher is involved your parents have already had a chance to royally fuck you up for life.
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> Look at the school rankings, it’s obvious the “rich suburbs” are doing better. But the fact is the vast majority of these people are rich because they know the value of an education, and have passed that value down to their children. I don’t buy the arguement that it’s all about school budgets and tax bases, especially when Buffalo spends more than Williamsville per child. That’s an easy “PC” answer, and that’s why it’s popular. No one wants to admit the real issue is parents and their core values, because demographically a majority (read NOT ALL) of those parents that are doing such a poor job raising their kids are of a specific race. And as soon as you try to bring that up, no matter how many statistics you have to back it up, you’re labeled a racist. If we’re at the point that we’re too PC to even discuss the real problem, how are we supposed to fix it?

I agree with you, but I think you’re wrong to assume that once they’re 12 or whatever that good teachers can’t get through to kids. Even if we cut it down the middle and say only 50% of todays ‘problem’ kids can be reached by a great teacher/school, that’s still a huge number.

Race IMO really has nothing to do with it or little compared to economic status. It’s just that in a lot of urban areas the majority of the lower economic class are black or hispanic.

I think ‘ghetto-culture’ is also a huge contributor to the problem. This goes back to community involvement in neighborhood, etc…

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