# Public Response to Karter

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 9, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907 "2011-03-09T08:26:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/61 "2011-03-09T17:46:40Z")

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I am indeed an Amish housewife. Joose?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/62 "2011-03-09T17:46:59Z")

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Karter gets no respect because based on his online persona, he deserves no respect.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/63 "2011-03-09T17:50:34Z")

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I’m up for Joose.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/64 "2011-03-09T17:54:24Z")

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Joose now? I like discussing Joose, mmmmmm Joose.

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/65 "2011-03-09T17:58:19Z")

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Karter, I’ve never met you, but you need to just use this place for what it is, and nothing more. It’s an internet car forum. You’re pretty active in the buying/selling part of it, and from what it seems, you got a pretty good rep. with all that. I wouldn’t concern yourself with every little thing that everyone says around here. Fuck everyone.

Seriously, I could not give less of a fuck what the masses think on here. Hell, I prob. don’t even know the new “core” group of people. But the people on here that know me, know what I’m about. And that’s all that matters.

My 2 cents…

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**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/66 "2011-03-09T18:10:59Z")

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> [@91MR2](#):
>
> Karter, I’ve never met you, but you need to just use this place for what it is, and nothing more. It’s an internet car forum. You’re pretty active in the buying/selling part of it, and from what it seems, you got a pretty good rep. with all that. I wouldn’t concern yourself with every little thing that everyone says around here. Fuck everyone.
> 
> Seriously, I could not give less of a fuck what the masses think on here. Hell, I prob. don’t even know the new “core” group of people. But the people on here that know me, know what I’m about. And that’s all that matters.
> 
> My 2 cents…

from here on out, thats what I’m going to do.

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**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/67 "2011-03-09T19:43:42Z")

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OMG when is winter over!!!

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/68 "2011-03-09T19:53:51Z")

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_ **SOUL PURPOSE** _

[https://youtu.be/Cx0xzO73Amo](https://youtu.be/Cx0xzO73Amo)

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/69 "2011-03-09T20:16:20Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
>
> Karter honestly just gets into squabbles with people and blows it way out of proportion. Once he gets into this mode as we have seen many, MANY times all we can do is wait it out. That is the bottom line. I get into it with people on here that I have beers with later that day sometimes. Not as big of a deal as he makes it seem.

Exactly, an internet squabble isn’t something you shouldn’t let upset you for more than 3 minutes.

Yeah, sometimes it sucks that arguments erupt over stupid shit, but there is a really simple way to end them. STOP TYPING. That’s it. The argument ends when 1 side stops typing. Don’t let your pride get in the way, you probably will just end up digging your own grave.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/70 "2011-03-10T05:33:31Z")

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lol then you make a thread about ass wiping. 😢

If you’re going to be a knob, be a knob, but don’t bitch about getting treated like a knob.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/71 "2011-03-10T05:47:31Z")

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He tried to create an “epic thread” based on threads that were popular on other forums. Talk about trying too hard.

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**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/72 "2011-03-10T05:49:49Z")

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The internet is a place that gives ppl that wouldn’t normally have the balls to say anything, say something, because they can sit in the comfort of their own home and hide behind their screen and keyboard.:pat:

You’ve just gotta learn to let garbage slide, it is what it is.

PS: I miss 90’s Soul and R&B!😛

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**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/73 "2011-03-10T07:03:29Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
>
> I do think we have some members that are quite petty and like to troubleshoot people and put them down sometimes. Not sure what they get out of it.

> [@NYstanger](#):
>
> 👏 Some people only come out and post when they see an opening to be a douche

for sure, there are some people that i think only post pointless, stupid comments…either that or flaming for what it seems no reason.

> [@Karter](#):
>
> Its fucking stupid. Maybe you should take the advice and improve on the site. Without the ubrf clique bullshit and a few other members who straggle because of that, this place would have died already.  
> Why? its not like there is a lack of car people in NY.
> 
> Instead of merging forums like pittspeed, who came on to post, noticed how bad everyone is, expecially in offtopic, started a fucking shit show and then quit the forum.  
> You can’t earn respect when idiots are allowed to purposely come into a thread and post retarded shit, that makes youtube comments look intelligent.
> 
> I’m tired of forum owners who have the same shitty attitude “if you don’t like it leave” Why not make it better for everyone? Getting rid of flaming is going to hurt the site in some way? Make a community that is more appealing to the entire state instead of just the people who quit another forum?[COLOR=“Silver”]

obviously there is an issue of some sorts if there is this much talk about it, seeing this thread go from an admin publicly calling out a member to an actual conversation has to tell you something. you aren’t the only one thats noticed it, obviously others have spoken up now also

> [@Karter](#):
>
> thats overkill. All I’m asking for is common courtesy and the flaming that ruins every single offtopic thread ever to be gone. every thread should read like a thread in general auto. Half of the bullshit that is said on here from one member to another, would get you thrown out of a bar, so think what it would do in any respectable public establishment.

i agree, it doesn’t take much to get this kind of thing started

> [@91MR2](#):
>
> Karter, I’ve never met you, but you need to just use this place for what it is, and nothing more. It’s an internet car forum. You’re pretty active in the buying/selling part of it, and from what it seems, you got a pretty good rep. with all that. I wouldn’t concern yourself with every little thing that everyone says around here. Fuck everyone.
> 
> Seriously, I could not give less of a fuck what the masses think on here. Hell, I prob. don’t even know the new “core” group of people. But the people on here that know me, know what I’m about. And that’s all that matters.
> 
> My 2 cents…

thats pretty much my view, although it makes the experience more enjoyable when everyone is a little nicer to eachother

> [@civichb](#):
>
> The internet is a place that gives ppl that wouldn’t normally have the balls to say anything, say something, because they can sit in the comfort of their own home and hide behind their screen and keyboard.:pat:
> 
> You’ve just gotta learn to let garbage slide, it is what it is.

thats just it though, there’s a point when the garbage becomes more than the useful information, or hell throw useful out of there, how about intelligent conversations?

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/74 "2011-03-10T07:22:41Z")

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Let all get together and hold hands. It will make us all like each other and we will all be perfectly happy and nothing negative will ever happen. Karter or Skurge, you can be the homosexual MC that leads us all in happy songs.

![http://lh5.ggpht.com/_cPkRRwZd2wk/R40MNvnpleI/AAAAAAAAAG8/VRLxzMmRyKY/DSC01680.JPG](http://lh5.ggpht.com/_cPkRRwZd2wk/R40MNvnpleI/AAAAAAAAAG8/VRLxzMmRyKY/DSC01680.JPG)

Fuck, who cares what someone on the internet says or thinks about you? If you do not like what someone is posting in threads just put them on ignore. Unfortunately the ignore button is disabled for admins

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/75 "2011-03-10T07:27:56Z")

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lol, Skurge is butt hurt

If you all think that other forums are so much better than nyspeed, please feel free to you the “log out” option at the top-right hand part of the page.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/76 "2011-03-10T08:34:44Z")

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> [@Skurge](#):
>
> … obviously there is an issue of some sorts if there is this much talk about it, seeing this thread go from an admin publicly calling out a member to an actual conversation has to tell you something…

Nope, it’s “just Karter.”

You guys don’t know the history of how we’ve tried to accommodate & help him. The reason why I made this public is because it’s a pattern that hasn’t been broken by holding his hand, PMs, temp bans, etc. We’re done trying to help him but maybe you guys as a community can give it a shot.

Nikuk first noticed this pattern in '08. Karter would make a dumb post, people would pile on, he then he would get mad and bitch about the “state of the community” or “respect” or some other BS.

He once asked Fry to delete his account so he could just start over from scratch.

> [@Just Karter](#):
>
> 14 trader feedbacks of me not screwing people over when the site is constantly over run by scammers.
> 
> I asked fry a long time ago if i could make another name and have this one deleted because of all the bad shit assosiated with this name.
> 
> since i joined and pissed a few people off, ive been on the defense in every post weather they were serious or not.
> 
> that seemed like a viable soloution.

> [@Just Karter](#):
>
> this is going to seem odd.
> 
> On other forums I make how to’s, ect, but they are car specific, how should I go about contributing more to nyspeed besides just leaving off topic alone?
> 
> Also do you think its possible to come back on a different name and lose this name all together? Like maybe the admins could get together and discuss it?
> 
> My only reason for asking is, well as you said Feeding into shit, I got attacked from the begining and instead or just blowing it off as nothing **i battled back** , figuring thats how you dealt with the noob graising process, **and I was _WRONG._**
> 
> It would be cool to come back on a different name and just leave the old bad habbits behind and all the old drama assosiated with it.
> 
> If that was possible and did happen, I’d leave off topic alone either totally or as much as I leave gen auto alone now, and Try to contribute more for the greater good.

That’s just a taste of the 3+ year saga that is Karter. It’s obvious from these messages that he knows what the problem is and how to solve it. It has nothing to do with this forum or the way it’s run.

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**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/77 "2011-03-10T09:10:25Z")

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> [@tpgsr](#):
>
> Let all get together and hold hands. It will make us all like each other and we will all be perfectly happy and nothing negative will ever happen. Karter or Skurge, you can be the homosexual MC that leads us all in happy songs.
> 
> ![http://lh5.ggpht.com/_cPkRRwZd2wk/R40MNvnpleI/AAAAAAAAAG8/VRLxzMmRyKY/DSC01680.JPG](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/9/b969f44bb83c3a5fcbcf3894e3145175d2bbae7e.jpeg)
> 
> Fuck, who cares what someone on the internet says or thinks about you? If you do not like what someone is posting in threads just put them on ignore. Unfortunately the ignore button is disabled for admins

this coming from someone who helps run the site just shows how much class is really here…nice job proving a point 🙂

and no i said from the start i dont give a shit what people think of me, the ones that know me on here know who i am and how i am, have you not been reading? cause i’ve said that same thing a couple times now…how many of you would post up that your mother was a playboy bunny, NOT A ONE i would guess, cause you all desperately seek approval of the “cool” club. i dont think anyone here is in elementary school anymore, maybe act like it?

> [@boardjnky4](#):
>
> lol, Skurge is butt hurt
> 
> If you all think that other forums are so much better than nyspeed, please feel free to you the “log out” option at the top-right hand part of the page.

sounds like the typical “i’m a tough guy behind a keyboard” reply to me, you aren’t in the cool club yet are you? i’m not sure thats going to help you get in there pumpkin…

anyone can be a dick, doesn’t take much…and does that help the forum at all? NOPE

and thats why forums go to shit, i’ve seen it before, and exactly what happened to ubrf(granted the mods/admins had things to do with it also) the we are perfect and dont need to change our ways thing only works for so long.

I’m not saying this is the worst, it is by far not the worst, i could easily name a few(nasioc being the first to mind)

think about how many people have came to this site, stayed for a month and left, maybe 1K? maybe more? i’m sure a good portion of them would have been better members than a lot of the people that just post nonsense and flame all the time. a whole site merging with us, and almost all of them leave within a couple months, what does that tell you? there’s something wrong, no one wants to stand up and say something about it though, thats the issue.

obviously i’m not butthurt if i’m the one standing up and saying it, only for the good of the board. because i do enjoy reading things during the day at work, mostly car stuff but i will venture into OT to see whats up.

> [@Onyx Z32](#):
>
> Nope, it’s “just Karter.”
> 
> You guys don’t know the history of how we’ve tried to accommodate & help him. The reason why I made this public is because it’s a pattern that hasn’t been broken by holding his hand, PMs, temp bans, etc. We’re done trying to help him but maybe you guys as a community can give it a shot.
> 
> Nikuk first noticed this pattern in '08. Karter would make a dumb post, people would pile on, he then he would get mad and bitch about the “state of the community” or “respect” or some other BS.
> 
> He once asked Fry to delete his account so he could just start over from scratch.
> 
> That’s just a taste of the 3+ year saga that is Karter. It’s obvious from these messages that he knows what the problem is and how to solve it. It has nothing to do with this forum or the way it’s run.

i’m not saying i’m sticking up for karter, i’ll say that again

he’s not the only one that ever gets flamed on this board, there are lots of people that become the brunt of things

i’m just voicing an opinion from someone who has ran a forum much larger than this for a lot longer of a duration.

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/78 "2011-03-10T09:15:18Z")

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It is the internet, get over it.

Oh and LOL at the cool club. We used to have that but then we decided that it made people like you feel bad so we canceled it and we all turned in our cool badges.

🦇 😉

---------- Post added at 12:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:14 PM ----------

WHERE IS THE BAT IMAGE!?!?!?!?!

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/79 "2011-03-10T09:22:07Z")

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skurge, no one gives a shit what board you run/own. there are no cool kids. Grow thicker skin man, the internet isn’t going to change.

noobs not coming back isn’t new to the internet. people make an account, say hi, then bounce. It’s NOT because they got flamed. It’s because they are not dedicated the board. They have nothing invested and they probably just forgot all about it. Happens everywhere on the internet. If every new member on every message board stuck around and continually contributed, there would not be enough hours in a day, bandwith on the net, storage on the servers, etc… to handle the traffic.

You know how many message board accounts I probably own, and how many I visit each day? It’s a VERY lopsided ratio.

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**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-response-to-karter/209907/80 "2011-03-10T09:22:49Z")

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> [@tpgsr](#):
>
> It is the internet, get over it.
> 
> Oh and LOL at the cool club. We used to have that but then we decided that it made people like you feel bad so we canceled it and we all turned in our cool badges.
> 
> 🦇 😉
> 
> ---------- Post added at 12:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:14 PM ----------
> 
> WHERE IS THE BAT IMAGE!?!?!?!?!

thats exactly the response i was looking for, thanks for playing.

people like me? when have i ever tried to fit in with you guys? really? stop trying to make it out like something its not, just to keep up your image…

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