# Public Service Announcement
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [August 6, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276 "2007-08-06T17:59:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@KoukiS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KoukiS14)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/1 "2007-08-06T17:59:15Z")
If you have a cold air intake and you see a puddle DO NOT attempt to drive through it as you may misjudge the actual depth of the puddle and suck water into your motor ultimately making it choke itself to death.
So yeah my little brother went to Canadian Tire (oh the irony) and when he left it had rained quite heavily. There was an unassuming puddle that ‘didnt’ look deep so the 240 trucked right through it until the engine began to spudder then chug and finally die. After some water evacuation out of the intake and combustion chambers the engine roared to life. Unfortunately the 2.4L was not the same, a loud ticking had developed.
A compression test was done and it revealed nothing serious, number 4 was low at 120psi but other than that it still ran so as I searched for a replacement motor my bro drove the car around when he had no other choice. Unfortunately, what was first diagnosed as bent valves was probably a spun bearing. So benounced to him the motor was a ticking time bomb. Well 2 days after this whole incident the motor had had enough. It didnt go without a bang though as it threw a rod through the side of the block.
Nevertheless, the pictures will do the talking. I hope you all enjoyed your long weekends cause me and my little bro had some good bonding time.
I gotta throw a shout out to Robby for lending us a hoist and Arslan for hooking us up with a great replacement KA.
I live in Toronto and my bro lives in windsor…no van or truck between the two of us means you have to improvise. Who said civcs dont rock!
A little cherry picker action to help extract the engine from the civic and we are good to go.
We can finally begin.
Out comes the old KA.
Oh no what is that I see…its a crank peeking out at me.
Tearing down the old motor. Since we got a 97 KA for the replacement, it had tons of emissions BS on it so we swapped over the lower intake manifold from the 95 and that was about it in terms of compatibility problems between the 2 engines.
We worked late into the night, our neigbours dont like us much.
The next day the motor is in.
I had to throw this photo in just because my middle brother looks like a homo. He rarely helps us out and since we needed a hand he decided to throw on some raggy ass clothes that he found downstairs in the basement…too bad the pants didnt do up. This is what he does best…stand around and smoke while we work.
Come evening we have everything hooked up and ready to go but the engine wont fire. Thats because I didnt place the distributor in properly and the marks were off, it would crank and backfire like a mofo. Once again the internet saves the day and I figure out that you have to line up cyl #1 at TDC and then insert the distributor with its marks lined up. We pack it in for the night.
We salvaged the head off the old motor. Unfortunately it bent the #4 valves as the piston kissed the head when it threw the rod out.
We werent about to swap the engine without adding a performance upgrade so a DC Sports header was installed.
All done! Monday morning.
All that was left was to return the engine hoist and test drive the car.
Holy shit this 240 is so fast your hair sticks up!
Well thats it. A nice weekends worth of work for a silly mistake. Not really a hard job by any means rather quite simple. We took our time and counted roughly 8 hours of work. The only casualty we suffered was a crushed power steering line but that was easily fixed.
The end
I will say the new motor pulls better but it could be the header. The dyno will be the real judge right Dan-o!
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### Author:  [@tosh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tosh)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/2 "2007-08-06T18:30:29Z")
> [@Painting a car flat black?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painting-a-car-flat-black/13519/24):
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> Oh no what is that I see…its a crank peeking out at me.
vote to sticky this pic. awsome haha. you say the car pulls nice now, any other mods
besides the headers? oh, and don’t you just love neigbours!
peace
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/3 "2007-08-06T19:20:20Z")
i wish my brothers were into cars… even just one of them.
good work on the swap.
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### Author:  [@Wiltzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wiltzor)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/4 "2007-08-06T19:53:15Z")
not that it makes a difference, but your new motor is actually a '98.
i know this because me and dontmakeitstupid pulled it out of his car last summer before it was sold to arslan.
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### Author:  [@Lucidsnow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucidsnow)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/5 "2007-08-06T20:22:33Z")
my knN filter is resting on my slash guard… lots of water goes on it… especially when driving in rain highway… no problems yet… maybe ur filter was spongeyyyy absorbed all the water
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### Author:  [@cgguy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cgguy)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/6 "2007-08-06T20:38:23Z")
Lol, great story… Then I get to the last pic and see he’s still runing the CAI extension. At least there’s no short supply of KA’s around 😉
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### Author:  [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/7 "2007-08-06T20:44:57Z")
Awesome post!
Glad it all worked out!
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### Author:  [@simplemind7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/simplemind7)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/8 "2007-08-06T21:10:34Z")
its called hydolocking the engine, it’s not a bent valve or spun bearing… he bent a connecting rod. this is what happens when too much water gets into the cylinder, the piston goes up, water doesn’t compress, something has to give. that’s what the knocking/ticking noise is, the rod hitting the side of the block (probably where it blew a hole in it)
good work on the swap.
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### Author:  [@Mr\_X](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_X)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/9 "2007-08-06T21:14:58Z")
Man, the damn puddle was up to the middle of my shin! I’m 6’0! Shitty ass drainage at CT.
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### Author:  [@simplemind7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/simplemind7)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/10 "2007-08-06T21:17:36Z")
my friend actually hydolocked his probe in a canadian tire parking lot too, in cambridge though, lol.
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### Author:  [@Keez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Keez)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/11 "2007-08-06T23:29:42Z")
thats why when i wash my motor i leave the car running and keep a little bit away from the intake, i have soaked it a few times but no problems like that, awesome seeing the pics and the work, and in all good time also.
one pic of you guys you dont even look like u were working on a car, more like about to go to the mall ha!
good job tho
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### Author:  [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/12 "2007-08-07T05:23:31Z")
Sucks about the motor, but you guys did a great job on the swap. It’s really good that there were SON members helping you out too, I guess this forum isn’t just for shit-talking 😃
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### Author:  [@cgguy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cgguy)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/13 "2007-08-07T07:06:41Z")
> [@saving "flash" video... a heads up](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/saving-flash-video-a-heads-up/13491/11):
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> my friend actually hydolocked his probe in a canadian tire parking lot too, in cambridge though, lol.
Must be another CT scam. Parking lot “incidents” are a huge source of thier autoshop income. The shop mechanics run around the parking lot letting air out of peoples tires so they’ll come in and buy a new set of Motomaster Ultras.
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### Author:  [@KoukiS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KoukiS14)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/14 "2007-08-07T07:39:59Z")
> [@Why do Grand Am owners think their car is fast?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/why-do-grand-am-owners-think-their-car-is-fast/13289/49):
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> its called hydolocking the engine, it’s not a bent valve or spun bearing… he bent a connecting rod. this is what happens when too much water gets into the cylinder, the piston goes up, water doesn’t compress, something has to give. that’s what the knocking/ticking noise is, the rod hitting the side of the block (probably where it blew a hole in it)
>
> good work on the swap.
I knew it wasnt bent valves because like you said water doesnt compress very well so thats why I figured it was a spun bearing due to the force pushing on the crank. If the sound was knock against the cylinder block wouldnt have it blown right away? He drove the car around for 2 days like that. I really dont know since this situation doesnt come up often.
Youre right though that carnage doesnt happen from bent valves or spun rod bearings.
And hell yeah we went back to the CAI. Its a lesson learned and I sure as hell hope its one that doesnt get made twice.
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### Author:  [@dontmakeitstupid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dontmakeitstupid)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/15 "2007-08-07T08:30:20Z")
good to see my motor found a good owner. whats this emissions problem it had?
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### Author:  [@Lucidsnow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucidsnow)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/16 "2007-08-07T08:38:25Z")
> [@KoukiS14](#):
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> If the sound was knock against the cylinder block wouldnt have it blown right away? He drove the car around for 2 days like that.
cuz the ka is a beast… thats is why… …havnt u seen the idiots that blew up the ka on purpose video? it kept going…
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### Author:  [@KoukiS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KoukiS14)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/17 "2007-08-07T09:04:20Z")
no emissions problems rather we had to get rid of all the extra emissions that were on the 98 engine since the 95 was still an OBDI.
Oh and to answer your question about the performance, the header gave it more grunt up top thats for sure, the power band is linear as compared to falling on its face with only the intake. ill post some dyno results once we get it done.
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### Author:  [@GetARide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GetARide)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/18 "2007-08-07T15:18:53Z")
> [@Painting a car flat black?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painting-a-car-flat-black/13519/24):
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> Oh no what is that I see…its a crank peeking out at me.
A little crazy glue would fix that right up. Then you can put it in the for sale Section : MINT KA24DE, REBUILT!!
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### Author:  [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/19 "2007-08-07T16:10:26Z")
[http://www.tirerack.com/intake/aem/air\_bypass\_valve.jsp](http://www.tirerack.com/intake/aem/air_bypass_valve.jsp)
Sorry about your Brothers luck…
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### Author:  [@Lith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lith)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/public-service-announcement/108276/20 "2007-08-07T18:27:47Z")
glad you guys got it done so quickly… good job…
btw, didn’t you just do a 5speed swap on your brothers car? I got the new modified mag today and I read the 240sx 5speed swap article… from the pics I saw, it’s your brothers car that was in the article 🙂
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