# Pwn to Own, Ubuntu could not be cracked **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 18, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524 "2009-01-18T11:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/21 "2009-01-21T10:38:21Z")
> [@BillysRevenge](#): > > The people writing viruses and such are doing so on Linux, why would they attack their own OS lol. Plus, what would be more effective a virus against most of the world’s users or the other 2% that use Linux. That is factually incorrect FUD and BS (in regards to people writing viruses are linux users). It is true that Windows is a far bigger moving target for the home end user though. ---
**Author:** ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/22 "2009-01-21T10:47:11Z")
> [@evane](#): > > That is factually incorrect FUD and BS (in regards to people writing viruses are linux users). > > It is true that Windows is a far bigger moving target for the home end user though. Considering most viruses are written in VB I would have to agree ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/23 "2009-01-21T10:50:51Z")
> [@boardjnky4"](#): > > [http://www.linux.com/feature/131059](http://www.linux.com/feature/131059) > > A little bit of fuel for a flame war 🙂 > > :lol: , I love when people claim that Linux is just as vulnerable as Windows. Keep in mind Ubuntu by default (Desktop config) is not allow any of the older insercure services in, they are all turned off… rpc.statd. rpcbind, sendmail… etc It is amazing how many Linux distros still run sendmail. Don’t even get me start on HP-UX, AIX and Solaris… all still run telnet, rlogin, remshd…etc ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/24 "2009-01-21T10:54:11Z")
My general though is the system is only as secure as the person who admins it. Ubuntu is a awesome distro since it plays to the lowest common denominator of user and has all crap turned by default. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/25 "2009-01-21T11:29:38Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > absolutely, and I give a round of applause to M$, because it took nearly 2 days for their system to be cracked, and it was only because of a 3rd party application that it was made possible. > > I say tsk tsk to apple for safari getting busted. I use firefox on my desktop Mac, but with the ibook, it is just too slow with firefox so I do use safari, but I really don’t trust it. > **[Safari RSS vulnerability discovered; gives up personal data](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2009/01/safari-rss-vulnerability-discovered-gives-up-personal-data/)** > > A vulnerability in Safari's RSS reader can lead to access to personal … just turn off it’s RSS handling ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/26 "2009-01-21T11:31:45Z")
> [@evane](#): > > My general though is the system is only as secure as the person who admins it. agreed… while some come more secure than others OOTB, the user is certainly a majority of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/27 "2009-01-21T11:40:09Z")
true and not true. But absolutely, a poorly administered linux box can certainly be less secure than a well administered windows box. ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/28 "2009-01-21T16:08:57Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > 1. No way to know and patch vulnerabilities without looking for them. > > 2. There are tons of companies and businesses running Linux servers in all sorts of different applications. They could do some serious damage. Without a doubt. I think more and more businesses will be looking into Apache servers due to their light system requirements and better speeds. I personally had noticed a huge speed increase from switching from windows Web hosting to linux web hosting. Not to mention the ability to use PHP over ASP. Although it’s a growing OS among businesses it is still dwarfed by Windows. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/29 "2009-01-21T16:11:35Z")
> [@BillysRevenge](#): > > Without a doubt. I think more and more businesses will be looking into Apache servers due to their light system requirements and better speeds. I personally had noticed a huge speed increase from switching from windows Web hosting to linux web hosting. Not to mention the ability to use PHP over ASP. > > Although it’s a growing OS among businesses it is still dwarfed by Windows. I don’t think that you really understand the enterprise tech industry. There are a lot more devices running linux based OSes than you think. Think embedded systems. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/30 "2009-01-21T16:14:07Z")
A lot of large web hosting companies run Apache…not a giant news flash… ---
**Author:** ![BillysRevenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BillysRevenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BillysRevenge)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/31 "2009-01-21T16:29:03Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > A lot of large web hosting companies run Apache…not a giant news flash… I’m well aware. > [@boardjnky4](#): > > I don’t think that you really understand the enterprise tech industry. There are a lot more devices running linux based OSes than you think. > > Think embedded systems. Yes, true, I was referring more towards the server sense though. I think the PS3 uses linux and possibly iPods. I’m not really sure maybe you know? I did read that the old school iPod nanos could be modded with linux so they could play video’s as well. ---
**Author:** ![FearBefore128](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fearbefore128/32/5115_2.png) [@FearBefore128](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FearBefore128)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/32 "2009-01-21T16:47:23Z")
Huh surprised the Mac went first, though I wouldn’t even consider an air a real Mac, much less a real computer… I’m not surprised it happened through safari, safari is one of the few Mac programs I dislike, I always immediately switch to Firefox or Google Chrome as soon as I boot up a fresh computer, regardless of make or OS ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/33 "2009-01-21T17:12:29Z")
dude why are you reposting shit from March 2008 in 2 threads so far? Is your RSS feed delayed by 10 months? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/34 "2009-01-21T17:12:54Z")
PS3 is indeed Linux based. I assume the ipod is running the Darwin BSD kernel. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/35 "2009-01-21T17:15:44Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > dude why are you reposting shit from March 2008 in 2 threads so far? Is your RSS feed delayed by 10 months? hah, I never even realized it with the Viper thread. It was news to me! This article is a bit old, but it is still very much applicable. Neither of the 3 have had THAT many changes/bug fixes since the article was written, that would make the information obsolete. Not to mention, this thread has stayed pretty calm, unlike that Viper shit-show. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/36 "2009-01-21T18:03:03Z")
> [@FearBefore128](#): > > Huh surprised the Mac went first, though I wouldn’t even consider an air a real Mac, much less a real computer… > > I’m not surprised it happened through safari, safari is one of the few Mac programs I dislike, I always immediately switch to Firefox or Google Chrome as soon as I boot up a fresh computer, regardless of make or OS How is a Mac Air not a real computer? The only reason I wouldn’t “consider it a real mac” is because it technical doesn’t fit Apples requirements for leopard… You can buy a DVD drive for it and the remote drive mapping works great. Have you ever used one? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524/37 "2009-01-21T18:05:44Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > How is a Mac Air not a real computer? > > The only reason I wouldn’t “consider it a real mac” is because it technical doesn’t fit Apples requirements for leopard… > > You can buy a DVD drive for it and the remote drive mapping works great. > > Have you ever used one? hah [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pwn-to-own-ubuntu-could-not-be-cracked/61524.md?page=1)