# question- hypothetically speaking... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 17, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206 "2009-02-17T17:40:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/1 "2009-02-17T17:40:36Z")
lets say you contact a board member about a set of tires for sale. description is lightly used, around 3k on them, great tread, ect… buyer and seller agree on a price and meet up. upon visual inspection tires look great. buyer couldnt be happier. a few days later the buyer goes to get the tires mounted. finds out that 1 is good, but 1 has a rip on the sidewall, a rip that is only able to be seen when the tire is mounted and inflated. tire shop is super cool about the whole thing, orders a new tire, and puts it on (SWERVE FUCKING RULES) what would you do in this situation if you were the seller and the buyer contacted you about a partial refund? POLE COMING SOON, HOLD YER HORSES ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/2 "2009-02-17T17:42:14Z")
Shit happens, wouldn’t deal with the seller again. (Speaking from a buyer’s perspective). ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/3 "2009-02-17T17:43:27Z")
FUCK I FORGOT TO MAKE IT PUBLIC ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/4 "2009-02-17T17:44:40Z")
Is it possible that the rip happened upon the removal of the tire from the rim? If that were the case then the seller would honestly have no idea since they were good when they were mounted. I don’t know tire machines, i’m just throwing this out there. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/5 "2009-02-17T17:46:30Z")
> [@joelster](#): > > Is it possible that the rip happened upon the removal of the tire from the rim? If that were the case then the seller would honestly have no idea since they were good when they were mounted. I don’t know tire machines, i’m just throwing this out there. EXACTLY i believe it was a total mistake but if you were the seller and the buyer told you what happened would you refund 1/2 of the $? ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/6 "2009-02-17T17:48:10Z")
Half? No, if the buyer wanted to bring me the tire back I’d refund it all if I was the seller. If not nothing. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/7 "2009-02-17T17:50:02Z")
i sold a broken ps2 once, i didnt know it was broken, i gave him all his money back and some extra edit: it wasnt my fault the ps2 was broke, but he didnt break it either. if the tires were fine, and you were the one that ripped the tire and you’re tryna pull some fast shit (people have done this before) then fuck you. how are u able to not see a rip? but :tup: to swerve fa sho on mounting tires ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/8 "2009-02-17T17:51:02Z")
Well in “technically” the sellers description of the tires was untruthful, sounds like a bit of a dicy situation though, if the buyer throughly inspected them and didn’t see such damage, its unlikely the seller knew of it either, at that point as a buyer I wouldnt expect reimbursement. however if damage to an item is clear and it was very obv that a seller would have known about such damage, then yes id expect reimbursement, as would I give reimbursement as the seller. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/9 "2009-02-17T17:58:01Z")
This depends, is the seller CKY or a kid from East Aurora? ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/10 "2009-02-17T18:04:35Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > This depends, is the seller CKY or a kid from East Aurora? if there was a scam to be had it clearly came from EA. i’d refund half, much easier than dealing with the BS even if I am getting ripped off. ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/11 "2009-02-17T18:08:56Z")
from a selers standpoint, I try to describe everything to the best of my knowledge. It helps avoid situations like this, but used tires are used tires. if the seller makes it right, even more kudos to the seller. Id make it right. ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/12 "2009-02-17T18:21:50Z")
i’d refund half. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/13 "2009-02-17T18:23:11Z")
i voted refund but it depends. i’ve had tire shops make mistakes before… tires are a tough issue because there is always something that can happen. it depends on the buyer. If he’s a regular and i care i’ll help him out. if he’s a douche, screw him. moral: be less douchey. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/14 "2009-02-17T18:26:04Z")
im too nice of a seller. I trade more on my name then on the individual parts themselves. I also try to make sure i look something over real well when “listing” it for sale. That being said, as a seller (assuming its an honest oversight / mistake) I’d refund half the money pending proof. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/15 "2009-02-17T18:30:02Z")
The real question is what did the seller do once you told him about the tire? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/16 "2009-02-17T18:34:18Z")
Assuming that you, being the seller, were being honest and didn’t know about the rip… Fuck the buyer. How do you know that it didn’t happen after the tires left your hands? But there are always exceptions. I.E. if you’re doing OK and sold them to someone down on their luck, then yeah work with them. A little karma is probably more valuable to you than a few bucks. ---
**Author:** ![Dtown611](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dtown611/32/5340_2.png) [@Dtown611](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dtown611)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/17 "2009-02-17T18:34:39Z")
i would ask to see the tire ( as seller) and then upon inspection i would most likely refund for the one tire. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/18 "2009-02-17T18:41:14Z")
poop in the tire ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/19 "2009-02-17T20:22:08Z")
I’d give a full refund for the one bad tire ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206/20 "2009-02-17T20:34:33Z")
Where is the I wouldn’t sell someone fucked tires option? so. Fuck the buyer because it would have happened in his care. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/question-hypothetically-speaking/63206.md?page=2)