# R8 what?!?!?! I'll take the R10... and so will dozr! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 15, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773 "2005-12-15T20:52:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/1 "2005-12-15T20:52:13Z")
[http://www.planetlemans.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1456&Itemid=2](http://www.planetlemans.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1456&Itemid=2) Similar styling, but completely new power plant that will put Tom into a coma… a 5.5 liter V12 Turbo Diesel putting out rougly 640 HP and 811 ft/lbs of torque :eek: > The car’s wheelbase is longer than the R8’s was in order to accomodate the 5.5 Litre, Turbodiesel V12 engine. It also has much wider front tires. The engine has a claimed output of 650 horsepower and 1,100 Newton-meters of torque. Michelin will continue to supply the tire program for the car. > . > The R10 prototype’s V12 power unit, which is equipped with two diesel particle filters, is hardly recognisable as a diesel thanks to the engine’s smooth running nature. The TDI engine’s specialities presented the Audi Sport engineers with a whole list of challenges. The injection pressure easily exceeds the 1,600 bar achieved in production cars. The usable power band lies between 3,000 and 5,000 revs per minute – an unusually low rev range for a racing engine. The driver must change gear in the R10 far less often than in the R8 because of the TDI engine’s favourable torque curve. > > The enormous torque of over 1,100 Newton metres does not only make extreme demands of the R10 transmission system – even the latest generation of engine dynamometers at Audi Sport had to be re-equipped with special gearboxes capable of withstanding the unusual forces. > . If you want/need more info, read the damn article, no cliff notes for the lazy. DISCUSS!!! ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/2 "2005-12-15T20:55:47Z")
giggidy giggidy awwwww Rigggght ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/3 "2005-12-15T20:58:48Z")
Holy shit that is sexy. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/4 "2005-12-15T20:59:53Z")
im kinda suprised it doesnt make more torque than that. ---
**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/5 "2005-12-15T21:01:56Z")
> [@mike125k](#): > > im kinda suprised it doesnt make more torque than that. :word: I wouldn’t be surprised if it was capable of such, they just de-tuned as not to chew up transmissions and other drive line parts. Considering they stated that had to redesign their engine dyno for this thing… :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/6 "2005-12-15T21:09:51Z")
That’s awesome. I hope one day the US government pulls its head out of its ass and starts enouraging the use of diesel engines instead of all this hybrid garbage… But, too bad I’ll be rooting _against_ the new Audi and _for_ the new Peugeot, which is also supposed to be diesel. ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/7 "2005-12-16T05:26:05Z")
> [@neurokinetik](#): > > That’s awesome. I hope one day the US government pulls its head out of its ass and starts enouraging the use of diesel engines instead of all this hybrid garbage… > . :word: ---
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/8 "2005-12-16T05:32:26Z")
i will thake two, please ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/9 "2005-12-16T06:03:19Z")
makes no sense as diesel fuel is alot cheaper to refine, yet they sell it for more than gasoline. you’d think bush and all the oil companies would be pushing diesel like crazy so they can make even more money off us. stupid NYS, i really wanted to buy the new Jeep Liberty CRD too. ---
**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/10 "2005-12-16T06:21:18Z")
It was only a matter of time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/11 "2005-12-16T06:29:15Z")
That engine is beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/12 "2006-01-04T17:18:50Z")
WOW…that is beautiful! just one question, i have a limited knowledge of diesel and the “1600 bar injection pressure” is pretty mind-blowing to me. Maybe somebody can clear this up. my calcualtions show that 1600 bar=23,520 psi. seems a bit high. ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/13 "2006-01-04T17:30:10Z")
> [@ezfd](#): > > WOW…that is beautiful! just one question, i have a limited knowledge of diesel and the “1600 bar injection pressure” is pretty mind-blowing to me. Maybe somebody can clear this up. my calcualtions show that 1600 bar=23,520 psi. seems a bit high. no, thats right. honestly i’ve seen higher injector pressures before. diesels (newer ones) are direct injection. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/14 "2006-01-04T17:35:40Z")
thats some serious plumbing… badass ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/15 "2006-01-04T17:46:36Z")
> [@mike125k](#): > > im kinda suprised it doesnt make more torque than that. > [@Itagaki](#): > > :word: I wouldn’t be surprised if it was capable of such, they just de-tuned as not to chew up transmissions and other drive line parts. Considering they stated that had to redesign their engine dyno for this thing… :gotme: More like they de-tuned it so they wouldn’t show all their cards and get rediculous restrictions/rewards weight if anyone knew just how capable that thing is. _Sand-bagging 101, class is now in session_ ---
**Author:** ![Choda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/choda/32/7347_2.png) [@Choda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Choda)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/16 "2006-01-04T17:56:31Z")
ehh i dont think its all that hot ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/17 "2006-01-04T18:40:33Z")
thats soooooo hot, ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/18 "2006-01-04T19:20:36Z")
Who cares about hot? Will it win the 24 Hr at LeMans is the real question. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/19 "2006-01-05T14:18:35Z")
> [@mike125k](#): > > no, thats right. honestly i’ve seen higher injector pressures before. diesels (newer ones) are direct injection. WOW, I consider myself schooled. That is a lot of pressure! ---
**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773/20 "2006-01-05T14:24:39Z")
My car makes about that much fuel pressure 🙂 [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r8-what-ill-take-the-r10-and-so-will-dozr/5773.md?page=2)