# Rauh Welt **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 3, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rauh-welt/241140 "2009-01-03T15:21:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 54
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rauh-welt/241140/54 "2009-02-08T11:44:27Z")
> [@FS: 92-95 Civic/93-97 Del Sol OEM Front Lip](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-92-95-civic-93-97-del-sol-oem-front-lip/13639/3): > > hehe, I know, was just stirring the pot…😃 > > RW doesn’t do much in the susp development. Typical 911 mod include full monoball upgrades, camber and castor shim plates,diff spring rate, etc. Just basic shit really. The rear design of the later 911’s and 964(non torsion bar setups) is a close resemblance to your m-car setup. Wheel ratios vs spring ratios are not 1:1 which can make for some tricky tuning in some cases. It is common practice to shove are much rubber as you can fit under the fenders on the 911’s(pre 996) with a full monoball suspension and some GOOD dampers. they chassis just seems to respond well to the changes without too much of a headache. > > Most guys setup 911’s for stupid rear grip to counter their tail happiness tendency, but we know it creates a host of other issues. 911 are a different type of car to drive on the track and really take a little learning curve to get down. The roll dynamics of that rear engine setup toss wrenches into the mix. It was “the” chassis I learned to track in and was notably different when I went form that to the 944’s. > > I should get you some seat time in Mikes RSA this year for comparison. Interested? That’s kinda disappointing. I was hoping they’d have some crazy race engineering in there. Bolt on suspension changes for stuff like that, while cool (it’s the only thing on my car as per the buzzkill rules) are hardly taking advantage of the widebody coolness. Beyond that, it’s huge money, and I’m sure the RW cars arent cheap to begin with. If someone was going to spend all that AND wanted proper functioning pure suspension, they’d buy a Cup car (or two). \*\*\*Edit: Not knocking the RW cars, they are hella cool. +1 on being a different car to drive. I’ve been out riding with a handful of fast drivers in Porsches and its a different game. We spend the better part of 2 days discussing the most minor differences in driving one to the limit as oppsed to a “standard” FR car or motorsports MR race car. Very cool stuff. Pat Long wrote an article about it in the last issue of GRM. It’s easy for anyone, of any skill, to throw out buzzwords from Rennlist in the paddock but I’d say PL’s thoughts have a liiiiiittle more merit. :bowdown And hell yes I’d love to take Mike’s RSA for a rip on the condition that he drives my car and we all spend a few hours arguing about it about beers. > [@Vovchandr"](#): > > Engine is still in the wrong place, so it’s got form \> function +1. Take that, Adam, you antiquated purist! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rauh-welt/241140)._