# rb or 13b? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 29, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072 "2004-10-29T22:43:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/101 "2004-11-18T22:40:53Z")
many use 4/5/6/7 main. ford uses a 2 bolt main to handle 500 rwhp. well stock fuel pump 88 lph SBF cant handle that, upgrade of course :kekegay: šŸ¤£ ( on many 302 / 351 ) :owned: look at venom, blew up his 500+ hp 2 bolt main STOCK BLOCK drove around countless miles, then went to track and went booooom on a t-5 manual which didnt explode.\<--------- that is suprisingley on a 310tq max tranny ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/102 "2004-11-18T22:48:59Z")
> [@SHAG](#): > > many use 4/5/6/7 main. > > ford uses a 2 bolt main to handle 500 rwhp. well stock fuel pump 88 lph SBF cant handle that, upgrade of course :kekegay: šŸ¤£ > ( on many 302 / 351 ) > :owned: > > look at venom, blew up his 500+ hp 2 bolt main STOCK BLOCK > > drove around countless miles, then went to track and went booooom on a > t-5 manual which didnt explode.\<--------- that is suprisingley on a 310tq max tranny Cobra uses an 8 bolt main ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/103 "2004-11-18T22:55:07Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > Cobra uses an 8 bolt main do i own a cobra ? man i gotta defend the overhyped 5.0L šŸ¤£ leave your SVT outta this šŸ’ ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/104 "2004-11-18T22:57:58Z")
5.0 was king till the early-mid 90s ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/105 "2004-11-18T22:59:15Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > 5.0 was king till the early-mid 90s sure was, i am old enough now to own a FEW šŸŗ ( others will say OWNED a few too ) but ohwell, got what i likeā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/106 "2004-11-18T23:25:15Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > Oh when did I say the SR20 couldnt? Read mofo. I said earlier in this thread that the SR20 can make over 500whp. But you obviously dont know enough to know that the RB20 can make more than the SR20. The RB20 is about 130 lb heavier than an SR20, but the block is iron and there are 6 pistons just as strong if not stronger than the SR20ā€™s. Also, if you knew anything about this you would realize the RB20 clip is cheaper than the Red top SR20DET. This has been covered in the 240 forums and SR20 forums to the point they are tired of hearing about it. So I am an idiot for stating facts. You were the one just being a smartass. Sounds like you need to take your own advice. wow all at the cost of being differentā€¦you are an idiot. why buy a motor with very few US counterparts and if that isnā€™t enough harder to get specialty parts for as well as having shit for aftermarketā€¦lemme run out a buy a 240 so I can get a RB20DET. how many 500HP RB20ā€™s are there out there? now how many 500whp SRā€™s? I think that answers your questions and proves you are a ass. you want to go cheap and be different when in the end it will cost you nothing but headaches and more money ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/107 "2004-11-19T04:32:50Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > my 4.6 can go into the 1000s because its hand assemble with better parts,cant really count it! :hs: ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/108 "2004-11-19T05:15:25Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > wow all at the cost of being differentā€¦you are an idiot. why buy a motor with very few US counterparts and if that isnā€™t enough harder to get specialty parts for as well as having shit for aftermarketā€¦lemme run out a buy a 240 so I can get a RB20DET. > > how many 500HP RB20ā€™s are there out there? now how many 500whp SRā€™s? I think that answers your questions and proves you are a ass. you want to go cheap and be different when in the end it will cost you nothing but headaches and more money Man, go do some research. There are tons of high HP RBā€™s in Japan. It is a new swap for here so not as overdone. Also, several of the RB25 and 26 parts will fit the RB20 since they are pretty identical. What do you want, a bolt on kit. Lets seeā€¦ other than internals, heads, gaskets, and manifolds, what is not universal. The injectors are not unique. JWT even has an ecu for it. Instead of just saying shit, do some research. Even the most experienced SR20 guys can tell you which would make more power. I will have $3500 in my swap and performance parts when all is done. This should get us into the 400whp levels. There is no way I could do that with my sr20. Its not like I hate the SR20, because I do own one. I have researched alot of options with help from some people that have been working with Nissan engines for 10+ years. There was no better option. ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/109 "2004-11-19T05:20:15Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > the 5.0s can clearly make into the 400s on a stock bottom end. > > my 4.6 can go into the 1000s The RB26 can make it to 1000 on a stock bottom end. Ford = unimpressive. If I was ever gonna go to the darkside it would be for an LS1 equipped car. Oh yeah, we do free automotive engineering for GM down here right now. Ford sponsored us last year but I hate working on their stupid explorer. ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/110 "2004-11-19T09:34:31Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > Ignorance is bliss. yes it is, too bad it doesnt apply here. since you obviously have no idea on what i know i just suggest u shut up. ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/111 "2004-11-19T09:35:00Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > but i thought you dindtā€™ have a car there is always something in the worksā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/112 "2004-11-19T11:07:42Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > Man, go do some research. There are tons of high HP RBā€™s in Japan. It is a new swap for here so not as overdone. Also, several of the RB25 and 26 parts will fit the RB20 since they are pretty identical. What do you want, a bolt on kit. Lets seeā€¦ other than internals, heads, gaskets, and manifolds, what is not universal. The injectors are not unique. JWT even has an ecu for it. Instead of just saying shit, do some research. Even the most experienced SR20 guys can tell you which would make more power. I will have $3500 in my swap and performance parts when all is done. This should get us into the 400whp levels. There is no way I could do that with my sr20. Its not like I hate the SR20, because I do own one. I have researched alot of options with help from some people that have been working with Nissan engines for 10+ years. There was no better option. I said US counter partsā€¦go to a nissan dealer and ask them for main bearings for a RB20DET and see if they look at you like you are a retard, wait they look at you that way anywayā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/113 "2004-11-19T12:30:40Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > The RB26 can make it to 1000 on a stock bottom end. Ford = unimpressive. If I was ever gonna go to the darkside it would be for an LS1 equipped car. Oh yeah, we do free automotive engineering for GM down here right now. Ford sponsored us last year but I hate working on their stupid explorer. where the LS1 is a great car, it cannot support that kindve power without major upgrades. I think youre being blinded by brand loyalty, but Ford hit a homerun with the new dohc 4.6 ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/114 "2004-11-19T14:29:08Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > I said US counter partsā€¦go to a nissan dealer and ask them for main bearings for a RB20DET and see if they look at you like you are a retard, wait they look at you that way anywayā€¦ Funny, yeah, they look at me like a retard. What are you, 12? Immature assholes on this board that have never read up on what they are talking about. Thus the reason I dont come on here very often. You all fight amongst yourselves all the time. Why the hell would I buy anything from Nissan anyways? Do you go to your local Integra dealer everytime something is wrong. I have contacts in about 3 shops in the US that can get me any RB part I need. If you want cheap dealer parts, you may want to just stick with GM and Ford. Hell, they will rape you on new parts too. Use some intelligence and maybe a little maturity. ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/115 "2004-11-19T14:30:50Z")
> [@brokeasskorean](#): > > yes it is, too bad it doesnt apply here. since you obviously have no idea on what i know i just suggest u shut up. What do you know, since you have given very little as far as informative comments. I already know how little you know about the RB20. ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/116 "2004-11-19T14:32:39Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > where the LS1 is a great car, it cannot support that kindve power without major upgrades. > > I think youre being blinded by brand loyalty, but Ford hit a homerun with the new dohc 4.6 I havent heard very many good things about the 2004 4.6L, but was there an improvement in 2005? I have to have brand loyalty somewhat since they are sponsoring us with 2 free cars and $30000 funding. ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/117 "2004-11-19T14:45:08Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > I havent heard very many good things about the 2004 4.6L, but was there an improvement in 2005? I have to have brand loyalty somewhat since they are sponsoring us with 2 free cars and $30000 funding. big diff, between the sohc and the dohc. but yes in 05 the sohc went over some major changesā€¦ such as 3v instead of 2v, and vvt was introduced but the 03/04 dohc 4.6 was one of the best engines ever madeā€¦ it actually will out perform the 2jzgte ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/118 "2004-11-19T14:49:22Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > Funny, yeah, they look at me like a retard. What are you, 12? Immature assholes on this board that have never read up on what they are talking about. Thus the reason I dont come on here very often. You all fight amongst yourselves all the time. Why the hell would I buy anything from Nissan anyways? Do you go to your local Integra dealer everytime something is wrong. I have contacts in about 3 shops in the US that can get me any RB part I need. If you want cheap dealer parts, you may want to just stick with GM and Ford. Hell, they will rape you on new parts too. Use some intelligence and maybe a little maturity. Ford parts expensive šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/119 "2004-11-19T14:50:41Z")
I would have to go with the rb. I hear that the kanuder valves can handle up to 1 million hp. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072/120 "2004-11-19T14:52:39Z")
> [@bics56](#): > > I would have to go with the rb. I hear that the kanuder valves can handle up to 1 million hp. I found this quote from another site you mean to tell me that you havenā€™t heard of the new Ford SVT high performance Taurus Station Wagon with the supercharged lightning engine, 150 hp shot of NOS, Tremec TKO tranny and centerforce clutch, titanium kanuder valves, and no-slip muffler bearings? Man, those things are wicked fast!!šŸ˜ƒ [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rb-or-13b/170072.md?page=7)