# Ready for a per-mile gas tax?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [February 20, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523 "2009-02-20T06:52:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/21 "2009-02-20T07:31:00Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> :lol: at the people freaking out about the GPS.
> 
> Do you have a cell phone? Then guess what… they already know where you are. Wireless Enhanced 911, might want to read up on it.
> 
> What about cash? Do you still use cash? Probably not. Every time you use that debit card you’re like hansel and gretel dropping bread crumbs through the forest. Get me a subpoena for your phone, credit card, easy pass, shopping cards, banking records and internet activity and I’ll show you a map of your life that would probably terrify you.

> [@Joe](#):
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> Seriously, if you want to see what the government sees if they want to, on a more basic level, try signing up for Google Latitude. Big brother is already watching you if they feel the need.

Seriously, you guys think that is the same thing?  
Wait until you get 300 speeding tickets mailed to you at the end of the year for going 41 in a 40.

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**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/22 "2009-02-20T07:32:40Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> I will post this again for anyone that missed it…
> 
> “The system would require all cars and trucks be equipped with global satellite positioning technology, a transponder, a clock and other equipment to record…”

lol almost every new car has GPS in it

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/23 "2009-02-20T07:34:41Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Seriously, you guys think that is the same thing?  
> Wait until you get 300 speeding tickets mailed to you at the end of the year for going 41 in a 40.

:tinfoilhat: Just like they were going to do that with e-z passes 10 years ago right?

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**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/24 "2009-02-20T07:35:16Z")

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E: ^^^ Damn you!

> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Seriously, you guys think that is the same thing?  
> Wait until you get 300 speeding tickets mailed to you at the end of the year for going 41 in a 40.

You mean like how I got 14 speeding tickets this year for my average speed according to EZ-Pass exceeding 65 mph on the Thruway?

Oh, wait…

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/25 "2009-02-20T07:38:11Z")

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^Not even close to the same. New technology, government DESPERATE for money now, etc, etc.

Even the IRS is auditing like never before to scare up some scratch.

Wake up sheeple.

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/26 "2009-02-20T07:38:59Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil"](#):
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> As if the 63 cents per gallon you are paying now wasn’t enough…  
> [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iKyxhep3bfHageUJcgtOBo-pLQqgD96F6JO80](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iKyxhep3bfHageUJcgtOBo-pLQqgD96F6JO80)
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> “The system would require all cars and trucks be equipped with global satellite positioning technology, a transponder, a clock and other equipment to record…”  
> Nice.
> 
> I can’t wait to hear Stroked and Joe defend this.  
> It will be even better when they defend his taxing of the oxygen we breathe.:lol:

ugh… that’s going to screw A ton of industries… and just think of all the Canadian registered trucks that will come out of this…

This will also affect the large auto industries too… When they miss shipping times by rails they are forced to truck the parts to their next destination.

More expenses companies don’t need… I can see shipping rates going through the roof ☹

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/27 "2009-02-20T07:40:47Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> ugh… that’s going to screw A ton of industries… and just think of all the Canadian registered trucks that will come out of this…
> 
> This will also affect the large auto industries too… When they miss shipping times by rails they are forced to truck the parts to their next destination.
> 
> More expenses companies don’t need… I can see shipping rates going through the roof ☹

Exactly, people are not even thinking before posting.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/28 "2009-02-20T07:49:19Z")

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I’m with Joe on this one. $ for $ wise, this would save me tons of money.

The average person drives 15k miles/year @ $0.0025/mile that’s roughly $37.50 compared to the $756 @ $0.63/gallon tax @ 12.5MPG for 15k miles/year

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**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/29 "2009-02-20T07:51:21Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> ^Not even close to the same. New technology, government DESPERATE for money now, etc, etc.
> 
> Even the IRS is auditing like never before to scare up some scratch.
> 
> Wake up sheeple.

Don’t be stupid. It’s exactly the same; the technology is sufficient and is in place now.

They would do it with the EZ-Pass before implementing a whole new system.

You’re paranoid and completely out of touch with reality. They wouldn’t do it because they would all lose their jobs, and they know it.

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**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/30 "2009-02-20T07:53:21Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Exactly, people are not even thinking before posting.

You’re the most notable. This will not happen, and to claim that it will be used for speeding tickets when other technologies have not been in the past, and there is no indication that the will be so used to date.

The common thread among people with your level of distrust of the government is they constantly expect that “THE END IS NEAR,” and they’re almost always wrong. We should be vigilant, not paranoid and fatalistic.

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/31 "2009-02-20T07:53:44Z")

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> [@Joe\_Omerta](#):
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> I’m with Joe on this one. $ for $ wise, this would save me tons of money.
> 
> The average person drives 15k miles/year @ $0.0025/mile that’s roughly $37.50 compared to the $756 @ $0.63/gallon tax @ 12.5MPG for 15k miles/year

That is until they crank up the emission standards…

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/32 "2009-02-20T07:55:35Z")

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> [@Moruitelda](#):
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> Don’t be stupid. It’s exactly the same; the technology is sufficient and is in place now.

wait… the technology is the same? what technology are you referring to?

if you are referring to a cars ability to put out X amount of horse power and still get 30mpg now…

as oppose to back in the 80s/90s/early two thousands… you are really mistaken.

If not, I’m sorry I didn’t want to trace back your entire conversation.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/33 "2009-02-20T07:56:52Z")

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> [@Moruitelda](#):
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> You’re the most notable. This will not happen, and to claim that it will be used for speeding tickets when other technologies have not been in the past, and there is no indication that the will be so used to date.
> 
> The common thread among people with your level of distrust of the government is they constantly expect that “THE END IS NEAR,” and they’re almost always wrong. We should be vigilant, not paranoid and fatalistic.

It is because of people like me that they don’t get a way with this shit.  
You’re welcome. 😉

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/34 "2009-02-20T07:56:53Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> wait… the technology is the same? what technology are you referring to?
> 
> if you are referring to a cars ability to put out X amount of horse power and still get 30mpg now…
> 
> as oppose to back in the 80s/90s/early two thousands… you are really mistaken.
> 
> If not, I’m sorry I didn’t want to trace back your entire conversation.

WAT?  
the technology to give speeding tickets using speed monitoring through this, as opposed to E-Z pass.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/35 "2009-02-20T07:58:34Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> WAT?  
> the technology to give speeding tickets using speed monitoring through this, as opposed to E-Z pass.

yes.

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/36 "2009-02-20T08:00:39Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> WAT?  
> the technology to give speeding tickets using speed monitoring through this, as opposed to E-Z pass.

LOL like I said i didn’t care tnough to read through. lol.

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**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/37 "2009-02-20T08:07:19Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> It is because of people like me that they don’t get a way with this shit.  
> You’re welcome. 😉

I didn’t know you were a major lobbying organization that pads the pockets of Congressmen based on public interest in privacy. (You’re doing nothing. You’re posting about it on the internet. And they’re not going to do it anyway, because it’s insane and would result in an uproar).

> [@Joe](#):
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> WAT?  
> the technology to give speeding tickets using speed monitoring through this, as opposed to E-Z pass.

The technology to monitor average speed on a toll high-way using EZ-Pass or time-stamped toll cards.

> [@ILC](#):
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> LOL like I said i didn’t care tnough to read through. lol.

Then don’t post.

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/38 "2009-02-20T08:11:21Z")

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Do any of you realize how much tax one truck (dump/semi/box/whatever) pays each year just to be on the road?

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**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/39 "2009-02-20T09:34:10Z")

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> LaHood, one of two Republicans in President Barack Obama’s Cabinet, said in the interview Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Moruitelda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/moruitelda/32/5348_2.png) [@Moruitelda](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Moruitelda)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/40 "2009-02-20T09:37:37Z")

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Republicans! :argh: !

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