# Ready for a per-mile gas tax? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 20, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523 "2009-02-20T06:52:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/101 "2015-03-11T10:43:51Z")
> [@jimmyfloyd](#): > > Am I thinking about it wrong, or will the Per-mile tax penalize those hybrid drivers who get more MPG than the current gas tax would? I understand that it might be a better, more fair usage tax in the long run, but why would a driver of a car who gets excellent MPG try this program? That’s the exact reason you’re seeing governments push these programs right now. As our overall fleet MPG increases their overall tax revenue decreases. Right now it’s not a huge deal because electric cars represent such a small percentage of vehicle miles traveled but if/when they ever take off the model of collecting highway tax at the gas pump is going to have to change. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/102 "2015-03-11T11:19:18Z")
> [@jimmyfloyd](#): > > … why would a driver of a car who gets excellent MPG try this program? Because they practice what they preach and are willing to “pay their fair share?” ![http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/rage/steamboat-troll-rage-smiley-emoticon.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/3/73aa17f994acc05f09332e1f78522d62d6f9401b.gif) ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/103 "2015-03-11T12:03:45Z")
can’t they just check your mileage when you get an inspection each year or something? Seems like a lot of work to see how many miles you drive. Has to be an easier way. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/104 "2015-03-11T12:07:32Z")
> [@jimmyfloyd](#): > > Am I thinking about it wrong, or will the Per-mile tax penalize those hybrid drivers who get more MPG than the current gas tax would? I understand that it might be a better, more fair usage tax in the long run, but why would a driver of a car who gets excellent MPG try this program? One possible way it could benefit is if there are still savings. It could be that the overall per-mile cost is still less than the across the board gas tax now. You would have to run the numbers and find out. Also, while the tax may be higher with this proposed plan, you’re still using less fuel with a Prius than you would with a WRX. I would be surprised if the difference in taxes is greater than the cost savings of getting 50 mpg over 18 mpg. - - - Updated - - - > [@King](#): > > can’t they just check your mileage when you get an inspection each year or something? Seems like a lot of work to see how many miles you drive. Has to be an easier way. This idea has been in this exact thread for the past 6 years. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/105 "2015-03-11T12:21:03Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > …6 years. [http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o486/boshi-h/gif/berneydidnotread.gif(image larger than 10 MB)](http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o486/boshi-h/gif/berneydidnotread.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/106 "2015-03-11T12:26:11Z")
LOL! ---
**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/107 "2015-03-11T12:46:38Z")
I wonder if this could some how have an effect on insurance rates. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/108 "2015-03-11T13:01:15Z")
6 years later and I still can’t bring myself to give a damn how gas tax is calculated. I imagine my cars get just about average mileage anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Bastinado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bastinado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bastinado)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/109 "2015-03-11T20:11:47Z")
Isn’t the idea behind the gas tax to generate funds to keep the roads in shape as well? Shouldn’t that revenue be taken from a source now that actually dictates the mileages of road driven since technology has progressed enough to do so? ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/110 "2016-04-14T08:02:26Z")
Illinois proposal: > There is a proposal in Illinois for the state to put a device on cars to see how many miles citizens are driving. > The state would take that data to use in order to charge a tax on drivers depending on miles driven. It’s all in an effort to make money because the state is losing out on gas tax revenue thanks to more fuel efficient cars on the road. [http://www.kmov.com/story/31706964/illinois-proposal-seeks-to-tax-drivers-on-miles-driven](http://www.kmov.com/story/31706964/illinois-proposal-seeks-to-tax-drivers-on-miles-driven) ---
**Author:** ![Unknown923](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/unknown923/32/6803_2.png) [@Unknown923](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Unknown923)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/111 "2016-04-14T08:07:48Z")
![http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36349&stc=1](http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36349&stc=1) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/112 "2021-08-10T15:19:54Z")
Bump for the “infrastructure” bill… Again: - > the federal government is losing out on $174.6 million of revenue annually. - 🤭 👌 > **[Infrastructure Bill Includes Per-Mile Road Tax Test That Will Track Drivers’...](https://www.thedrive.com/news/41865/infrastructure-bill-includes-per-mile-road-tax-test-that-will-track-drivers-travel)** > > Americans may one day pay less at the pump, but more as their car's odometer climbs. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/113 "2021-08-10T15:24:06Z")
Going back to OBD1. “yes, thats correct i drove 113 miles in 2021” ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/114 "2021-08-10T15:54:57Z")
My issue with this is that you know they’ll double dip. There’s no way they just drop the gas tax. The new tax will be on top of the current. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/115 "2021-08-10T18:24:31Z")
Will this impact all vehicles on the road including freight/Semi Trucks? If so, fantastic… (Sarcasm) Just means our good will continue to go up in price as the freight companies will pass the expense off. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/116 "2021-08-12T10:44:33Z")
Will the Amish be taxed for this “use” tax since they also use roads? ---
**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/117 "2021-08-12T12:48:56Z")
Cyclists! ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/118 "2021-08-13T10:49:27Z")
Oh yeah, can you imagine the freakout if bikes were part of the use tax? I know there is a technically where bikes are vehicles in NY… ![Screenshot_20210813-064833~2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/4/04b6d4178ba4d40fe7919bd44facb3023e35b1fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/119 "2021-08-13T12:45:58Z")
Would be funny to see but obviously the calculation of mileage would be the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523/120 "2024-05-25T11:16:55Z")
California talking about it. > **[California testing car tracking as possible gas tax replacement](https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/california-testing-car-tracking-possible-gas-tax-replacement)** > > States are now having to mull over how to recoup losses from a gas tax as more cars on the road become more fuel efficient. California has been exploring the idea of a "road charge." [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ready-for-a-per-mile-gas-tax/212523.md?page=7)