# Rear lower tie rod bar - A bunch of B.S. or what? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [August 17, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440 "2004-08-17T14:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GreyGandalf\_S14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/greygandalf_s14/32/5475_2.png) [@GreyGandalf\_S14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GreyGandalf_S14)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/1 "2004-08-17T14:58:50Z")
ok, i see this bar on ebay - [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7916325879&category=33591](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7916325879&category=33591) now, this LOOKS like a nice bar, and for $25 US, you really can’t go wrong. but in its description, it says, and i quote “The Rear lower tie bar has been designed to reduce chassis flex to improve steering response and stability. Install between the rear axle.” chassis flex between a solid rear axle? there is no flex, is there? i could see flex in a wishbone design, ehhum, honda, but not in a rwd nissan product. just wondering if its a show piece, or if it is for real, and actually has some benefit performance wise. your feedback would be much appreciated ---
**Author:** ![NeveR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NeveR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeveR)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/2 "2004-08-17T17:40:18Z")
looks like just a rear strut bar to me. “No suspension upgrade will be completed without this STRUT TOWER BAR.” :roll: ---
**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/3 "2004-08-18T21:51:11Z")
Any suspention Brace with Heim Joints on it is a joke… Useless :!: ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/4 "2004-08-18T23:46:46Z")
> [@SHIFT\_SR20DET](#): > > Any suspention Brace with Heim Joints on it is a joke… > > Useless :!: dirt track cars around here use heim joint bars exclusively… i have pics for you to prove it. ---
**Author:** ![mr200](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr200/32/5495_2.png) [@mr200](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mr200)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/5 "2004-08-19T13:14:01Z")
> [@GreyGandalf\_S14](#): > > chassis flex between a solid rear axle? there is no flex, is there? i could see flex in a wishbone design, ehhum, honda, but not in a rwd nissan product. Unless you’ve got an 84 S12 and you’re just really confused, you don’t have a solid rear axle. You have an IRS. Independant Rear Suspension Meaning they move independantly, so tying them together yes, would help. I’m also curious what the problem with running heim joints is? A lot of racers, not just dirt track use them exclusively. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/6 "2004-08-19T13:38:08Z")
i think people get the impression that because of the design there is inherent flex. i’m not a technician of any sort, so i cant explain it that well, but i am using heims in my car now and when they are bolted in they simply cannot flex in the direction you are supporting. they can pivot though. ---
**Author:** ![mr200](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr200/32/5495_2.png) [@mr200](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mr200)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/7 "2004-08-19T14:06:41Z")
yeah, I kinda thought that was the whole reason they were applauded. Dunno, maybe some people are having problems with actually locking them in, I dunno. I am curious though, I’ve got some serious suspension stuffs in the works right now, and if you’ve come across some heim = bad info, I’d love to read it before I waste any more money. ---
**Author:** ![MrSkinny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@MrSkinny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrSkinny)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rear-lower-tie-rod-bar-a-bunch-of-b-s-or-what/81440/8 "2004-08-19T19:10:00Z")
FYI… but that things not going to come out to be 25 usd. its the auction price plus 15 usd for shipping (for within us… so if its to canada its prob 10 bucks more) then with 20/30 brokerage. just buy it here.