# recommend me a sporty sedan

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 25, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282 "2009-05-25T19:47:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![spinall4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@spinall4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spinall4)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/41 "2009-05-26T08:43:38Z")

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Wow cant really argue with a Benz making 400whp for 9k…

But AUDI is nice man, quattro is amazing… Shit i have 190k+ on my a4 and have owned it for over a year now and racked on about 30k and only $$$ i have put into it was gas! And even with AWD i average 31-32 mph highway!

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/42 "2009-05-26T08:54:56Z")

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> [@turbociv](#):
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> Didnt the cadilac cts-v have alot of issues?

Not really until you start modding them.  
The only weak point is the diff, from wheel hop. But as long as you don’t launch hard/a lot it really is not an issue.  
The engine is an LS7 for 04 and 05 which by some accounts was created by the hands of God.  
With the prices dropping more reasonably priced mods are coming out and wheel hop/diff solutions continue to evolve.

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/43 "2009-05-26T09:39:01Z")

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e90 330 2006 models are going for low 20’s with low mileage still. Not fast but nice ride, lots of options, low mileages out there and not crack head prices like the e46 m3 guys want.

my brother picked up an 06 330 loaded with everything but navi for 24 and low miles.

Sutherland has a ton of 06’s

jeller

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**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/44 "2009-05-26T10:26:00Z")

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john just get a mini van … its going to happen

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/45 "2009-05-26T10:38:06Z")

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lol… e46 m3’s can be had for super cheap lol … like 17k

Hell with mine I’m at about 93K miles now… at least 6 long hard track days… the only maintenance I’ve performed on it was changing the oil… The motors are SUPER solid too… mine with 73K miles on it when i bought it last year had a leackdown of 0% 0% 1% 0% 2% 0%.

I had to change the pads and rotors… but that was from the track days that they had to be changed so fast. pads are really cheap, rotors werent that bad either.

A few gripes I have with the car. I mis shift 3rd when I’m not paying attention and pussy foot it into gear, the car has always been like that. (good thing or bad thing IDK). the car is more difficult to drive (to be 100% smooth) the fuel map only really starts at 2K, so starting out it lags until 2K then a big surge of power.

Another… oil changes are 75 bucks, but last 7500 miles. and take under 3 minutes to change lol (seriously, its the perfect setup for common maintenance)

IDK what you are saying about “dated” though. The only other car I would rather have in the BMW line is an e92 M3.

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/46 "2009-05-26T11:09:18Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> lol… e46 m3’s can be had for super cheap lol … like 17k
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> Hell with mine I’m at about 93K miles now… at least 6 long hard track days… the only maintenance I’ve performed on it was changing the oil… The motors are SUPER solid too… mine with 73K miles on it when i bought it last year had a leackdown of 0% 0% 1% 0% 2% 0%.
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> I had to change the pads and rotors… but that was from the track days that they had to be changed so fast. pads are really cheap, rotors werent that bad either.
> 
> A few gripes I have with the car. I mis shift 3rd when I’m not paying attention and pussy foot it into gear, the car has always been like that. (good thing or bad thing IDK). the car is more difficult to drive (to be 100% smooth) the fuel map only really starts at 2K, so starting out it lags until 2K then a big surge of power.
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> Another… oil changes are 75 bucks, but last 7500 miles. and take under 3 minutes to change lol (seriously, its the perfect setup for common maintenance)
> 
> IDK what you are saying about “dated” though. The only other car I would rather have in the BMW line is an e92 M3.

the e46 m3 is the only e46 i would consider for obvious reasons. Im realy not scared of maintanance costs on these cars since ive owned bmw for a while now. My current 328is has over 120k miles and over 20k miles of hard boosting and still runs great and strong. im not afraid of high mileage bmw’s.

Im just trying to find the most car for the least amount of money like everyone else.

right now im thinking.

audi s4 b6/7  
bmw m5 e39  
bmw 545i  
bmw 325/328/330 e90

And i may just bitch out with a 2000up e39 540 and save myself a ton of loot.

The only draw back from the audi s4 is the lack of nav.

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/47 "2009-05-26T11:10:49Z")

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I heard the 540’s are just a pain…

not to shit up your thread… but I don’t see the appeal to nav. 90% of your driving is local anyway… its just a baller feature.

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/48 "2009-05-26T11:12:40Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> I heard the 540’s are just a pain…
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> not to shit up your thread… but I don’t see the appeal to nav. 90% of your driving is local anyway… its just a baller feature.

lol obviously you have never experienced my retarded ass try to get around town localy.😃 But nav isnt a huge deal, just almost seems standard now in alot of lux sedans.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/49 "2009-05-26T11:48:12Z")

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> [@turbociv](#):
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> lol obviously you have never experienced my retarded ass try to get around town localy.😃 But nav isnt a huge deal, just almost seems standard now in alot of lux sedans.

Plus you can always just buy a nice nav stereo unit and add it in yourself.

Heck they have 1.5 dins with ~6 inch screens and GPS for $250 now.

Saturn Vue Redline :lol:

When I was looking for a sedan the 2000 ish M5 was on my list, but the money, maintenance and dated look killed it for me.

Driving a Volvo S60R killed that for me.

A surprisingly fun car to drive, Charger R/T, and C32 AMG.

[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R-T-HEMI-Black-on-Grey-Leather-08-Save-Thousands\_W0QQitemZ180359926931QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item29fe4a1493&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R-T-HEMI-Black-on-Grey-Leather-08-Save-Thousands_W0QQitemZ180359926931QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item29fe4a1493&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308)

Seriously test drive a Charger R/T they are fun even with the auto. Plus it is a pretty large car. Resale will suffer with it though. ☹

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**Author:** ![spinall4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@spinall4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spinall4)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/50 "2009-05-26T12:45:01Z")

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> [@turbociv](#):
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> The only draw back from the audi s4 is the lack of nav.

You can get nav in an s4 look at the last ebay attachment from justin, that s4 is equiped with nav

[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-5-Audi-S4-Auto-Nav-Loaded-Great-Condition\_W0QQitemZ190309695812QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item2c4f578144&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-5-Audi-S4-Auto-Nav-Loaded-Great-Condition_W0QQitemZ190309695812QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2c4f578144&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/51 "2009-05-26T12:53:56Z")

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If you wait a while to buy a Charger, they may give you a PT Cruiser with it…

A plus or minus as that may seem…

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/52 "2009-05-26T13:00:13Z")

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if I had a charger, every time I went past an airport I would probably try to return it.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/53 "2009-05-26T14:48:01Z")

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Sell ya my B7 for 16.

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/54 "2009-05-26T14:48:53Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> if I had a charger, every time I went past an airport I would probably try to return it.

:mamoru::mamoru: nice^

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/55 "2009-05-26T15:15:34Z")

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> [@turbociv](#):
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> lol obviously you have never experienced my retarded ass try to get around town localy.😃 But nav isnt a huge deal, just almost seems standard now in alot of lux sedans.

BMW Nav is not going to help you get around anywhere… it is honestly the worst navigation system, and most unreliable, that I have ever seen/used

EDIT: annnnddd after I wrote this it decided it didn’t like the DVD anymore and basically told me to go fuck myself, FML

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/56 "2009-05-26T15:28:04Z")

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> [@turbociv](#):
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> tt.
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> The only draw back from the audi s4 is the lack of nav.

:wtf:

B6/7 S4s came with Nav… maybe not the sub $20k ones I guess.

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**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/57 "2009-05-26T16:30:19Z")

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what about buying a nicer truck/SUV that can tow your car to and from the track??

good all year round  
lots of room for you, wife, daughter and the pooch  
who cares about MPG you live under 3 miles from work

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/58 "2009-05-26T22:03:28Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> Sell ya my B7 for 16.

more info please? pics?

> [@91CRXSI](#):
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> what about buying a nicer truck/SUV that can tow your car to and from the track??
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> good all year round  
> lots of room for you, wife, daughter and the pooch  
> who cares about MPG you live under 3 miles from work

something to think about i guess. But i dont think ill be doing much drag racing anymore.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/59 "2009-05-27T05:31:53Z")

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> [@91CRXSI](#):
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> what about buying a nicer truck/SUV that can tow your car to and from the track??
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> good all year round  
> lots of room for you, wife, daughter and the pooch  
> who cares about MPG you live under 3 miles from work

its not like a s4 gets 30 mpg anyway

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**Author:** ![spinall4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@spinall4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spinall4)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/60 "2009-05-27T06:11:36Z")

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TBSS!!!

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