# recommend me a sporty sedan

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 25, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282 "2009-05-25T19:47:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/81 "2009-05-28T10:15:11Z")

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^ FWD :tdown:

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**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/82 "2009-05-28T15:10:06Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Dodge has great transmissions.

what? just about every modded automatic dodge that i’ve known has blown ATLEAST 1 tranny

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/83 "2009-05-28T15:13:06Z")

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:picard:

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/84 "2009-05-28T16:00:08Z")

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> [@91CRXSI](#):
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> what? just about every modded automatic dodge that i’ve known has blown ATLEAST 1 tranny

quoted for no edit

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/85 "2009-05-29T12:25:26Z")

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> [@91CRXSI](#):
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> what? just about every modded automatic dodge that i’ve known has blown ATLEAST 1 tranny

Ugh. My dad has owned a half dozen 300+hp dodges with automatic (“autostick” or whatever) transmissions and hasn’t ever blown one.

edit: Although I think most black on black srt8/rt dodge cars are pretty nice looking and decently quick, I can’t really picture the OP getting one. If you can though… test drive an srt8 magnum. Good highway gas mileage, runs high 13s stock, great exhaust note, the interior is pretty nice, great turning circle, RWD blah blah blah.

lol @ older STis and evos not being teenage cars.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/86 "2009-05-29T12:50:28Z")

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autos in the LX (edit: V8) cars are MB design 😉

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/87 "2009-05-29T13:23:59Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> Ugh. My dad has owned a half dozen 300+hp dodges with automatic (“autostick” or whatever) transmissions and hasn’t ever blown one.
> 
> edit: Although I think most black on black srt8/rt dodge cars are pretty nice looking and decently quick, I can’t really picture the OP getting one. If you can though… test drive an srt8 magnum. Good highway gas mileage, runs high 13s stock, great exhaust note, the interior is pretty nice, great turning circle, RWD blah blah blah.
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> lol @ older STis and evos not being teenage cars.

Magnums/Chargers are awful car, push them and you will understeer into everything, it likes reading a chapter of a book before it finds the next gear, interior is like a plastic park bench, blah blah blah.

the CTS-v is a much better car/value than any LX platform

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/88 "2009-05-29T18:50:29Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> Magnums/Chargers are awful car, push them and you will understeer into everything, it likes reading a chapter of a book before it finds the next gear, interior is like a plastic park bench, blah blah blah.
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> the CTS-v is a much better car/value than any LX platform

Yeah you shouldn’t buy a station wagon because if you track it it might understeer. :picard:

We’ve got a 5 series here too and I’d take the srt8 over it every day. And I’m a useless domestic hater.

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/89 "2009-05-30T16:03:26Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> Yeah you shouldn’t buy a station wagon because if you track it it might understeer. :picard:

:roflpicard:

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/90 "2009-05-30T18:10:26Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> Yeah you shouldn’t buy a station wagon because if you track it it might understeer. :picard:
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> We’ve got a 5 series here too and I’d take the srt8 over it every day. And I’m useless.

because a track is the only place you can understeer a vehicle… :banghead:

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/91 "2009-05-30T18:38:29Z")

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Well seriously if you’re inducing noticeable understeer or oversteer in a car with a child in the back you need to be shot. Every “what car should I get” thread turns into the most raw unrecognizeable discussion ever. “What mini van should I get?” would turn into a discussion between a 370z and an s2k.

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**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/92 "2009-05-30T20:05:53Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> Not really until you start modding them.  
> The only weak point is the diff, from wheel hop. But as long as you don’t launch hard/a lot it really is not an issue.  
> The engine is an LS7 for 04 and 05 which by some accounts was created by the hands of God.  
> With the prices dropping more reasonably priced mods are coming out and wheel hop/diff solutions continue to evolve.

Last I knew, the previous-generation CTS-V’s were all **_LS6_**'s, not LS7’s. And yes, the differential was a weak point because of “axle tramp” on hard acceleration.

And if sub-20k is what you’re looking for, a real sleeper option in a _new_ car is the soon to go Cobalt SS **_sedan_** - there was a red one listed at Paddock, I think. Yea, it’s FWD, but maybe that’s not so bad in WNY as a DD. That, plus a $650 dealer stage II kit, and it’s putting 300hp to the flywheel. Debadge it, and noone’d ever know.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/93 "2009-05-30T22:54:59Z")

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Yeah, mistype on my end.  
It has a 5.7 LS6, went to 6.0 in 2006. I must have been dreaming for an LS7 at the time I posted.  
And we like to call it wheel hop not axle tramp. There is a dealer bulletin that installs some new bushings which helps but does not solve the issue.

As for a cobalt SS sedan add a LSD and the sticker is almost $25k, add a sunroof and a spare tire you are closing in on $26k.

I am sure there is cash on the hood right now and good financing but it would be tough to walk off the lot under $20k.  
And if he is looking for a euro luxury vehicle I doubt the cobalt fits that profile well.

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/94 "2009-05-30T22:58:01Z")

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yea, im def not rockin a cobalt anytime soon.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/95 "2009-05-30T23:03:34Z")

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🙂

![http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/ablake211/IMG_1134.jpg](http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/ablake211/IMG_1134.jpg)

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**Author:** ![traumadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/96 "2009-05-31T06:02:13Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> Yeah, mistype on my end.  
> It has a 5.7 LS6, went to 6.0 in 2006. I must have been dreaming for an LS7 at the time I posted.  
> And we like to call it wheel hop not axle tramp. There is a dealer bulletin that installs some new bushings which helps but does not solve the issue.
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> As for a cobalt SS sedan add a LSD and the sticker is almost $25k, add a sunroof and a spare tire you are closing in on $26k.
> 
> I am sure there is cash on the hood right now and good financing but it would be tough to walk off the lot under $20k.  
> And if he is looking for a euro luxury vehicle I doubt the cobalt fits that profile well.

Yep - I figured that… just was throwing it out there. And FWIW, I saw one that they were offering to me for $21.6k that included the LSD and sunroof. Oh, and yea, that’s why I put “axle tramp” in quotes - I remember it being called that in some mag somewhere.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/97 "2009-05-31T10:32:30Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> Well seriously if you’re inducing noticeable understeer or oversteer in a car with a child in the back you need to be shot. Every “what car should I get” thread turns into the most raw unrecognizeable discussion ever. “What mini van should I get?” would turn into a discussion between a 370z and an s2k.

Because he will only drive the car around with a child in the backseat?

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/98 "2009-06-07T20:49:41Z")

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Ok please buy this.

[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-AMG-C55-V-8-low-miles-warrenty-White\_W0QQitemZ160336400501QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item2554cb5075&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=65%3A12|39%3A1|72%3A317|240%3A1318](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-AMG-C55-V-8-low-miles-warrenty-White_W0QQitemZ160336400501QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2554cb5075&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A317%7C240%3A1318)

![[http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!BQtDvMQ!2k~$(KGrHgoH-DoEjlLlzR(4BJ6SyduiGw~~\_12.JPG](http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!BQtDvMQ!2k~$(KGrHgoH-DoEjlLlzR(4BJ6SyduiGw~~\_12.JPG)](http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!BQtDvMQ!2k~%24(KGrHgoH-DoEjlLlzR(4BJ6SyduiGw~~_12.JPG%5D(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!BQtDvMQ!2k~%24(KGrHgoH-DoEjlLlzR(4BJ6SyduiGw~~_12.JPG))

If I wasn’t getting married, buying the fiancee a truck, and buying a house I’d be getting one of these. So hot.

![http://66.98.248.89/y2k-usa/09_Mercedes_C63AMG_White_4k_7213/MVC-026S.JPG](http://66.98.248.89/y2k-usa/09_Mercedes_C63AMG_White_4k_7213/MVC-026S.JPG)

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/99 "2009-06-07T20:56:37Z")

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\<3 amg’s… id just be afraid of something breaking…

that ones still warranteed for a while though… seems really cheap… low miles too

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/recommend-me-a-sporty-sedan/68282/100 "2009-06-07T21:12:25Z")

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When I have a shorter commute I’ll sign up for single digit gas mileage.

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