# Red Light Photos in Buffalo **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 24, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009 "2009-03-24T05:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/121 "2009-04-08T06:55:57Z")
> [@RobHimself](#): > > I say just hang a sign on them that says free copper inside and let the nature take its course. ^^^ great idea! :lol: ---
**Author:** ![longuyen88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/longuyen88/32/7611_2.png) [@longuyen88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/longuyen88)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/122 "2009-04-08T07:13:15Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > You’re really going to make the winter excuse? > > If you cannot stop, for any reason, you’re driving too fast for conditions. That is illegal. You have to be in complete control of your vehicle at all times. > > As an adult you have to be able to make a judgement call. Do you spike the brakes after driving too fast and slide into a pedestrian? Do you stay on the throttle and blow that red light because you were driving too fast for conditions and get a red light ticket? > > How about you just slow down and stop in a controlled manner? It isn’t like red lights just pop out in front of you in the city… they aren’t ninja red lights. Drive with caution in the snow/ice/slush/rain and you won’t have a problem avoiding a red light ticket. > > Ya know what? I bet if people stop at these intersections like they should… there wouldn’t be any revenue. Then the cameras would come down. As of right now… they have 2 valid reasons why they should put them up. > > 1. Collecting revenue from a select few who think you don’t have to stop at a red light. > 2. Making the people who put lives at risk everyday pay a fine for it. > > I’ll bold it again for everyone… until someone corrects me: > > **ISN’T THE SPEED LIMIT IN THE CITY 30-35 MILES PER HOUR. WHICH MEANS IN SNOW AND SLUSH THE SPEED LIMIT IS JUST ABOVE RUNNING SPEED AND IN PERFECT CONDITIONS IT IS STILL SLOWER THAN RIDING A HORSE** Ok Jack, So you’re on the your motorcycle which stops on a dime to beat that shortened yellow light. What happens when the redneck in the lifted truck behind you rams you when his truck cannot stop in the same distance? You will trust other drivers to stop in time? ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/123 "2009-04-08T08:26:17Z")
Smoked visor and hard to read license plate ftw. Sorry red light cameras! ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/124 "2009-04-08T08:33:12Z")
Jack, judging by you opinions, you must not drive in the city often. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/125 "2009-04-08T08:35:52Z")
I’m glad I don’t have any business in the city other than school which won’t even have these, seems like a total waste and everyone is just gonna get pissy and upset either way. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/126 "2009-04-08T08:54:18Z")
It’s really unfortunate, there are many great restaurants and bars in the city. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/127 "2009-04-08T08:56:35Z")
Thank god I am moving out of the city. Anyone who didn’t think this was going to happen is really blind to the city and state even. Its a money source for an already poor and broke city. I am sure the state gets a percentage of this the entire time they are installed. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/128 "2009-04-08T09:08:21Z")
Thanks NYS, for continuing to provide me with ample reason to leave this shithole state once I’ve taken advantage of all your educational system has to offer. ---
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/129 "2009-04-08T09:40:05Z")
When I lived in LA - They had these set up all over the place. On my car i have these pretty nice license plate covers that actually block the camera from getting a picture - probably not by design but at least by mistake. The plastic shines when you shine a light on it - and the flashes on them were very bright. I easily blew like 6 lights - and got tagged each time. Never got one ticket. So you could roll the dice and try plate covers. ---
**Author:** ![Joehip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@Joehip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joehip)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/130 "2009-04-08T09:57:07Z")
As someone who both woks and lives in the city, the biggest problem I see is this. The lights in the city (except for Oak and Elm) are not timed which is annoying as all hell. During rush hours, it is not uncommon to see cars backed up through intersections…do they all get tickets because they spent an entire light cycle sitting idle in the intersection? Also it does not matter how careful of a driver you are, people hate getting caught at 3-4 redlights in a row, so there is a lot of tailgating to try and beat the lights. If people were all of the sudden start hitting the brakes on yellows, there will be more rear end collisions. I also hope this applys for all the busses, cops, and other govt vehicles that never stop for red lights. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/131 "2009-04-08T09:58:44Z")
I hope they make a list of each intersection that is going to receive a redlight camera. I’m just going to re-route around these. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/132 "2009-04-08T10:01:30Z")
> [@Joehip](#): > > As someone who both woks and lives in the city, the biggest problem I see is this. The lights in the city (except for Oak and Elm) are not timed which is annoying as all hell. During rush hours, it is not uncommon to see cars backed up through intersections…do they all get tickets because they spent an entire light cycle sitting idle in the intersection? Also it does not matter how careful of a driver you are, people hate getting caught at 3-4 redlights in a row, so there is a lot of tailgating to try and beat the lights. If people were all of the sudden start hitting the brakes on yellows, there will be more rear end collisions. > > I also hope this applys for all the busses, cops, and other govt vehicles that never stop for red lights. then these people should get tickets for blocking the box, which really annoys me ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/133 "2009-04-08T10:05:33Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > then these people should get tickets for blocking the box, which really annoys me How in the world are you going to accomplish that? “In a perfect world…” ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/134 "2009-04-08T10:07:17Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > I was wondering this too? > > Also, > > My MAIN concern is, IT’S a FUCKING COMPUTER. Computers fuck up all the time… > So, let’s say the camera accidently goes off during a green light, and you get a ticket… > How do you even go about fighting it? They typically take a series of photos of your car _and_ the light to show the sequence. Additionally, more sophisticated systems also have radar guns and will monitor variations in speed between green/yellow/red. If it fucked up and shot you on a green, it’d be pretty easy to tell. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/135 "2009-04-08T10:07:45Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > I hope they make a list of each intersection that is going to receive a redlight camera. > > I’m just going to re-route around these. At least in GA, they are all labeled. A list of them won’t be that hard to come by. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/136 "2009-04-08T10:11:36Z")
> [@Joehip](#): > > As someone who both woks and lives in the city, the biggest problem I see is this. The lights in the city (except for Oak and Elm) are not timed which is annoying as all hell. During rush hours, it is not uncommon to see cars backed up through intersections…do they all get tickets because they spent an entire light cycle sitting idle in the intersection? Also it does not matter how careful of a driver you are, people hate getting caught at 3-4 redlights in a row, so there is a lot of tailgating to try and beat the lights. If people were all of the sudden start hitting the brakes on yellows, there will be more rear end collisions. > > I also hope this applys for all the busses, cops, and other govt vehicles that never stop for red lights. The intersections that get the lights in Atlanta are the ones that have the issues with high volumes of traffic attempting to turn left for exactly that reason, restore order to the intersection. I’m fairly sure there are plenty of valid studies out there showing the negative impact from RLCs, I’ve seen them on TV several times. They generate revenue, pure and simple. Sure, running a redlight is illegal and you can’t really argue with that, but there are plenty of negative consequences that are associated with them. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/137 "2009-04-08T10:33:57Z")
![http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/simsticket-big.jpg](http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/simsticket-big.jpg) That’s what they’ll look like. So much for “what if I ran through a green light and it fucked up”. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/138 "2009-04-08T10:40:14Z")
> [@bigwoode](#): > > So out of curiousity, if you run a redlight equipped with a camera, and a cop sees you, will the cop ticket you as well? Or is their jurisdiction on these types of intersections no longer needed? Oh, I thought they just take a little clip of your plate…with a shitty little camera with no detail Not really arguing against that picture ^^ I honestly could care less about the cameras… yeah I think it’s unnecessary, as we have police that can take car of that, but what worries me, and everyone else, is, creeping totalitarianism. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/139 "2009-04-08T10:59:38Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > ![http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/simsticket-big.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/1/a13e521af086b3f7c068195e2eadf0d223a9e34b.jpeg) > > That’s what they’ll look like. So much for “what if I ran through a green light and it fucked up”. Photoshop the light green and send it back to them 🙂 Maybe a dumb question but how do these things take pictures of your plates at night or in bad weather? It doesn’t seem that there is some ultra high technology going on in these cameras and you might be able to distort the image enough to fight it. GPS companies can also make a fortune selling services that update you when approaching a red light camera intersection. Future iPhone app FTW 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009/140 "2009-04-08T11:01:41Z")
The idea is that with dwindling police forces these days, removing duties like this allows them to focus on more important things, like harassing kids. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-light-photos-in-buffalo/65009.md?page=8)