# REDLINE UPSTATE NY!!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/redline-upstate-ny/267661>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 3, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/redline-upstate-ny/267661 "2013-09-03T05:25:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![ExcuseM3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/excusem3/32/6758_2.png) [@ExcuseM3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ExcuseM3)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/redline-upstate-ny/267661/83 "2013-09-20T12:25:01Z")

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> [@OMG OMG OMG!!!! COME GIVE ME NEG KARMA!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-omg-omg-come-give-me-neg-karma/53431/90):
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> I always thought the beef with Howard was because he blew up a couple cars (in addition to him being a dick)?

This is what I used to hear all the time too. I grew up down the road from the old shop (which looks like its just a storage facility for work trucks now) and there were some awesome cars that went in and out of there. My grandmother actually works with his mom and apparently he has people overseas flying him over and shit now…if its true or not who knows but he seems to be doing better down in florida then he was up here.

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