# remember that B-2 that crashed in guam? v. HOLY ISH **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 6, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627 "2008-06-06T07:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fuzion1029](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fuzion1029/32/5162_2.png) [@fuzion1029](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fuzion1029)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/21 "2008-06-06T22:06:23Z")
![http://www.aeronautics.ru/img001/s37berkutlarge.jpg](http://www.aeronautics.ru/img001/s37berkutlarge.jpg) That plane is actually unstable. Can’t be flown without the computer. Makes it maneuver like a **insert cunning simile**. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/22 "2008-06-07T04:52:37Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > I know what fly by wire is. There is a sense of stability that the cpu offers with the plane, but interms of what the pilot is doing he is taking off and landing computer assisted for stability. Exactly, computer assisted. The pilot flies the plane but the computer decides exactly how the control surfaces move to keep the plane in the air. So when a sensor gives the computer the wrong information the computer assists the pilot right into the ground. 🙂 Regardless of your experience, this is right from the air force report on the crash: > The onboard computer believed the bomber was pointed slightly downward on takeoff roll and rolling 10-12 knots faster than its actual speed. > These two errors set off a chain of events that caused the bomber to crash. > First, the faulty airspeed indication caused the bomber to depart the runway about 1,450ft sooner than normal. **During the early rotation, the incorrect angle of attack data caused an uncommanded, 30-degree pitch-up.** The bomber’s slow speed at this 1.6g-inducing angle caused the aircraft to stall, yawing until its left wingtip scraped the ground. ---
**Author:** ![slowtalon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowtalon/32/7205_2.png) [@slowtalon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowtalon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/23 "2008-06-07T09:36:44Z")
good thing there wasnt any nuclear tipped warheads on board this one ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/24 "2008-06-07T10:07:52Z")
All of the technology we have and we can’t even get some cameras that can properly follow a moving target? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/25 "2008-06-07T10:14:21Z")
> [@slowtalon](#): > > good thing there wasnt any nuclear tipped warheads on board this one AFAIK, a crash like that couldn’t detonate one anyway ---
**Author:** ![cdvma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cdvma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cdvma)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/26 "2008-06-07T10:32:56Z")
> [@fuzion1029](#): > > That plane is actually unstable. Can’t be flown without the computer. Makes it maneuver like a **insert cunning simile**. AFAIK this is like the F-117 which is aerodynamically unstable more so than the B2. The skin on the F117 actually has to actuate in various places to make it fly. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627/27 "2008-06-07T21:04:50Z")
good thing those things are not expensive. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-b-2-that-crashed-in-guam-v-holy-ish/49627.md?page=1)