# remove p/s a/c the EZ way?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [July 3, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126 "2006-07-03T20:16:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@amd3dnow3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amd3dnow3)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/1 "2006-07-03T20:16:54Z")
question, is it possible to remove p/s, a/c by just removing belt and is it safe.
i hear that you need to loop the p/s high pressure lines for smo0ther easier steering true? and if you answer yes to this, how can i loop em
using what.
thnx for reply
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### Author:  [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/2 "2006-07-03T20:21:22Z")
i dunno about the power steering, but the AC u should be able to just unbolt and get a smaller belt. it might take a few tries to get something that fits right so u dont have the tensioner maxed out one way or another.
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### Author:  [@amd3dnow3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amd3dnow3)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2006, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/3 "2006-07-04T09:17:21Z")
for my car i dont even need to get smaller belt, the ac has its own separate belt so am just going to cut it off and remove a/c unit. for p/s i can also cut the belt , but i been hearing if you dont loop lines p/s pump creates pressure and sucks to drive the car that way.
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### Author:  [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2006, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/4 "2006-07-04T09:21:48Z")
not sure on power steering but find a flexable sewers tape then u can use that to figure out how long ur belt needs to be.
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### Author:  [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2006, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/5 "2006-07-04T09:24:45Z")
yes
have fun turning the wheel though
There’s an old honda write up on looping the PS…maybe I’ll look for it
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2006, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/6 "2006-07-04T09:40:04Z")
you will be better off looping the power steering than just having it run through a pump that is not spinning
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2006, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/7 "2006-07-04T09:51:03Z")
Why are you getting rid of power steering, is it really that much of an HP drain to be able to turn?
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### Author:  [@amd3dnow3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amd3dnow3)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2006, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/8 "2006-07-04T12:04:30Z")
am trying to squeez every f\*\*\*\* bit of power out of this honda,i remeber seeing this review of the aem pulley kit for a civic, underdrive p/s and a/t pulley was around 3 hp, so am thinking if i remove the p/s, remove a/c and get under drive a/t and crack pulley maybe ill get 5 or 6 hp.
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### Author:  [@botardtim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/botardtim)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2006, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/9 "2006-07-10T01:28:06Z")
Cars that have a p/s / no p/s option are different. If you want to ditch p/s all together you have to swap for a manual steering rack. The gearing ratio is different in manual steering vs. p/s racks.
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remove-p-s-a-c-the-ez-way/14126/10 "2006-07-10T01:50:15Z")
removing power steering the wrong way is just as good as running drag slicks on teh street … sure it puts down more power, but it also makes for a possibly unsafe condition
power steering only saps 2 or 3 horsepower when driving in a straight line, and when your turning your pobably not going full throttle anyways, so whats the use ? and you also have to remember that 3hp @ the crank only becomes 2hp @ the wheels due to drive train losses
youll never notice the extra power it gives you, you would need a dyno to test the difference (and its only possibleto test it this way on w/ a RWD car anyways)
a much better mod that will give you bigger gains is to install light weight wheels / tires if you havent done so already. heavy wheels can easily sap away well over 10 hp, ive seen dyno tests that show 18+ hp differance at the wheels
if you o switch to a manual steering setup, the only safe way to do it is to swap for a manual rack. the day you need quick stering response is the day you either love or hate the way you decided how to find a few extra HP