# rental property project

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [January 8, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071 "2013-01-08T14:00:06Z")
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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/1 "2013-01-08T14:00:06Z")

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bought a side by side duplex back in the summer of 2011 and spent about 15 months doing renovations inside and out. seemed like a great idea at the get go but i was quickly overwhelmed with my other work commitments, travel and other properties.

it is two 3 bedroom apartments approximately 1600 square feet a piece. on one side it appeared as though there had been a garbage can fire in the bathroom and more or less all of the copper had been stripped out of the basements.

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as a lover of original architectural detail the original plan was to scrape, prime and paint the original lap siding, replacing trim and such as necessary. after about 2 days of scraping that plan was quickly abandoned…priced out materials for vinyl siding and aluminum trim…probably the best decision i have ever made…

tore off all extraneous trim, wrapped all opening trim in aluminum them covered the whole place with fan-fold to smooth out some of the lumps and bumps in the old wood siding. sealed up all the seams and proceeded with siding.

my dad came down to give me a hand with the high stuff and give me a quick refresher on siding installation and using the brake as i have done neither since the last time they resided their house when i was a kid.

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somewhere within these pictures i decided to install all new windows as well. unfortunately the whole schedule went wrong, so i did all of my trim before the windows were installed as to not hold up the rest of the siding so i had to come in afterwards and put in some final finish metal pieces to close up the casings.

seemless gutters and downspouts were installed shortly after the siding as well which again i think was a good investment.

i didn’t touch the roof as it does not leak despite looking like hell…that is a project for this coming spring. i’m hoping to do the work myself but given the size and height of it i’m beginning to have my doubts.

the interiors were also completely redone although i did not take any real before shots of those.

about a month after getting them rented i got a call from one tenant saying he thought a sewer pipe had broken and that the basement was flooded…he sent this message as an email…when i noticed the email the following morning i assured myself he was mistaken and that the sump pump had simply failed from the heavy rain the night before…

upon arrival i discovered no broken pipes…but a main backed up into the basement into a lovely pool of human refuse that had to have been a few weeks old…had it snaked…apparently the clog was all the way out at the street…approximately 50’. i guess i just never ran enough water or paper down the drains to cause problem while i was working on it…it was easily the most disgusting mess i have ever had to clean up.

planning to do some black awnings over the front and rear doors and paint out the foundation black this spring as well.

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### Author: ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/2 "2013-01-08T14:08:47Z")

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:tup: nice work, amazing what a little siding and some trim can do. I cant imagine how long it would take to have stripped the paint from that place. I really liked the old trim, did you save and sell it?

Next time there is shit in the basement, dont clean it, call Servpro.

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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/3 "2013-01-08T14:15:22Z")

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much of the old trim is still under the casing…and it turned out that some of the nicer looking work was really just lauan plywood that had been nicely cut out will a jig saw and applied to the larger boards so i didn’t feel too bad about pulling it off. i have a friend who does architectural reclamation and he did take some of the stuff but a lot of it didn’t survive being torn off.

i figured based on the scraping i did in those 2 days multiplied by the whole house, plus priming and at least 2 coats of paint it would have taken me 4 months just to paint it…the siding, windows and gutters probably took about a month from start to finish…so it was a good trade and i won’t have to do it again in 5 years.

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### Author: ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/4 "2013-01-08T14:38:51Z")

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Inside pictures? What city is this located in?

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### Author: ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/5 "2013-01-08T15:58:13Z")

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I think my uncle has been stripping and scraping his siding on his house in kenmore since like… spring lol

Good choice :tup:

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### Author: ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/6 "2013-01-08T16:04:26Z")

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Good thing Tim Tielman didn’t catch you destroying the architectural heritage of that structure. Hope you used glue on the fan fold.

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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/7 "2013-01-08T16:26:53Z")

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this is in butler, pennsylvania…not local to nyspeed folks

here are a few interiors…most are not such good quality

crappy panorama of living room

bathroom

eat in kitchen crappy pano

the ‘parlor’

most of the interior started out in one form or another of this…

that is what i found under the sink unit in the old kitchen

and i shot this mother fucker out of the air in 2 shots with a trim nailer when he and his friend decided to come at me…

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> [@1QIKZ](#):
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> Good thing Tim Tielman didn’t catch you destroying the architectural heritage of that structure. Hope you used glue on the fan fold.

double sided tape with velcro at the corners

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this is from when i discovered that a 2-piece bathtub set was not as wise of a choice as it had seemed at home depot…

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### Author: ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/8 "2013-01-09T06:01:00Z")

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holy shit dude. what a transformation!

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### Author: ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/9 "2013-01-09T06:09:15Z")

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Thats a pretty large project. Looks good man :tup:

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### Author: ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/10 "2013-01-09T06:13:56Z")

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WAIT…YOU SERIOUSLY SHOT A NAIL THROUGH THAT BEE IN MID AIR?

BTW the house looks good

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### Author: ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/11 "2013-01-09T06:58:11Z")

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Amazing amount of work there! how much did you get the house for…looks like it could have been a steal!

PS no way you shot that bee mid air!

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/12 "2013-01-09T07:11:31Z")

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Looks great. You got some bawls working on ladders that high. I don’t mind heights, but those heights on ladders aren’t for me.

And shooting a giant wasp with a nail gun deserves to be over in the All That is Man thread.

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### Author: ![Shrives](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shrives/32/7250_2.png) [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/13 "2013-01-09T07:15:04Z")

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Looks great, quite the project you have there! Amazing how great new siding makes a house look.

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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/14 "2013-01-09T07:59:02Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Looks great. You got some bawls working on ladders that high. I don’t mind heights, but those heights on ladders aren’t for me.
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> And shooting a giant wasp with a nail gun deserves to be over in the All That is Man thread.

yeah the big ladder is a 40’…and it is definitely more dangerous moving it around than climbing on it. The plank is a different story…trying to move with 2 people on a 12" walking surface is scary up over 2 stories…my dad at 63 doesn’t bat an eye but he used to do siding for a living when he was my age

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### Author: ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/15 "2013-01-09T08:22:39Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Looks great. You got some bawls working on ladders that high. I don’t mind heights, but those heights on ladders aren’t for me.
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> And shooting a giant wasp with a nail gun deserves to be over in the All That is Man thread.

X2 to everything in this post…

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### Author: ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/16 "2013-01-09T08:57:33Z")

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awesome job.

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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/17 "2013-01-09T13:29:16Z")

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thanks all. it was a big project for essentially 1 person thus the 15 month schedule. it really has me second guessing doing the roof solo but i still have a couple months of crappy weather to decide.

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### Author: ![Mankthetank19](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mankthetank19/32/5295_2.png) [@Mankthetank19](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mankthetank19)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/18 "2013-01-10T05:29:24Z")

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Awesome work!!!

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### Author: ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/19 "2013-01-10T05:39:02Z")

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great work!

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### Author: ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rental-property-project/228071/20 "2013-01-10T08:04:09Z")

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Awesome work. that siding made it a million times more appealing lol

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