# Requesting assistance \*GTP 3800 GM crew\*

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 3, 2006, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365 "2006-01-03T10:52:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/21 "2006-01-03T12:31:49Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> arent turbos better for 4s rather than 6’s becuase 4’s tend to use higher RPMs thus using the Rpms and turbo boost more to the advantage?

no

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/22 "2006-01-03T12:32:42Z")

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How do i aquire or make a L67 a short block, this intriques me. My goal is a sleeper, about 3 grand is my max, since i can just drop this tuned engine in my next car

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/23 "2006-01-03T12:34:28Z")

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you can get a used tranny from 350+ usualy. A good race trans will run 3k+  
but a very reliable rebuild from [www.zzperformance.com](http://www.zzperformance.com) can be had for around 2500  
The L67 block is very tough and will produce tons of trq and hp with all kinds of different power adders. You need to figure out how much you want to spend and research on clubgp and L67swap.

As far as tunning and working your PCM I would get a L67pcm+wire harness so you can use DHP Power-tunner and tune it yourself. Also becarefull with just buming your timming. KR is a big factor with these motors and you can blow them very easy.

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/24 "2006-01-03T12:35:54Z")

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Ok, your gonna hve to dumb down a little for me, i apologize i dont know all your acronyms. Wireing is my biggest fear

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/25 "2006-01-03T12:36:12Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> BTW how much are trannys for these hogs

A rebuild with torque converter will run you between 1800-2200 for a good unit. ad in Performance parts, and you could be in the 3k range.

This is coming from someone sitting in front of aamco’s pricing guide

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**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/26 "2006-01-03T12:36:56Z")

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I guess I am too used to hondas, shit! 2k for a transmission. wow.

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/27 "2006-01-03T12:38:07Z")

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I need a better job…fast

I can work hard, and learn quickly, anyone have anything that i can learn or need just brute force work?

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/28 "2006-01-03T12:40:12Z")

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> [@98 Red Ex](#):
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> I guess I am too used to hondas, shit! 2k for a transmission. wow.

I sold one today, and that is exactly what i said, it was the first time i actualy felt horrible giving a price quote. And speaking of hondas, they are getting $$$ too, the new CVT that they are using in a lot of the vehicles can be anywhere from 1800-3200 depending on damage!!! :eek:

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/29 "2006-01-03T12:40:54Z")

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Ed Morad is a big parts guy. Hes located in ohio and deals just with gtp, bonni’s, regals. Ask him about a motor and tranny combo. He can hook you up.  
[email=“GTPED@msn.com”]GTPED@msn.com

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/30 "2006-01-03T12:41:52Z")

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Thanks, does he do Pretuned things ,sort of i pay him and he tunes it and then i just drop the bitch in? sort of like a crate motor thing

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/31 "2006-01-03T12:44:02Z")

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no. You would have to contact DHP about a custom PCM. Or buy there power-tunner program and tune it yourself with a laptop.

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/32 "2006-01-03T12:48:19Z")

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whats DHP?

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**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/33 "2006-01-03T12:49:52Z")

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buy the tunable ecu and have Innovative tune it for you :tup:

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/34 "2006-01-03T12:51:59Z")

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and how much is that?

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/35 "2006-01-03T12:59:12Z")

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> [@num482](#):
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> Ed Morad is a big parts guy. Hes located in ohio and deals just with gtp, bonni’s, regals. Ask him about a motor and tranny combo. He can hook you up.  
> [email=“[GTPED@msn.com](mailto:GTPED@msn.com)”]GTPED@msn.com

Ed is great, i would talk to him about anything you need.

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/36 "2006-01-03T12:59:12Z")

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This is your BEST bet for tunning a PCM for an L67 hands down.  
[DHP](http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=328)

It takes a factory computer and burns the code.

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/37 "2006-01-03T13:01:08Z")

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How much power can i expect to gain on that with just my Series I 3.8?

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**Author:** ![jay\_g](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jay_g/32/111288_2.png) [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/38 "2006-01-03T13:06:47Z")

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I do not believe the DHP tunner can tune a series I pcm.

As far as tunning and gaining power there is not a set number. Every car/set up is different. Some only gain a few poneys others gain HUGE amounts of power. It only takes the set up you have and helps it run to its potential

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/39 "2006-01-03T13:08:42Z")

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Alright, i emailed Ed asked him for a quote on a series 2 or 3 with a tranny to handle 350-400(Goal) and im awaiting a response. Then once i have that i can grab the DHP and other toys if i desire.

With the new motor and trans, plus the DHP what do i need to do to get 350-400 horses

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/requesting-assistance-gtp-3800-gm-crew/6365/40 "2006-01-03T13:10:17Z")

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pully, downpipe, injectors mabye, lots of things im probably missing also.

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