# response **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 27, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826 "2006-01-27T19:23:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/121 "2006-01-28T15:02:29Z")
wow 7 pages…anways gullwing the doors and /thread ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/122 "2006-01-28T15:27:14Z")
> [@turboTSI1320](#): > > I bet if you got a heads and cam package you would be alot faster, with spending less money then you would with a blower. Supercharger \> head & cam Being that $500 is nothing to him, money doesn’t seem to be an object. ---
**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/123 "2006-01-28T15:36:59Z")
> [@StealthZ](#): > > Supercharger \> head & cam Not on a stock ls1, I would go cam only on a stock shortblock, ms3, t-rex ect and have way less then a grand in it and all the poser supercharged f-body would ever see is my taillights. ---
**Author:** ![Streetnstrip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Streetnstrip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Streetnstrip)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/124 "2006-01-28T15:44:02Z")
> [@amwellls1](#): > > Not on a stock ls1, I would go cam only on a stock shortblock, ms3, t-rex ect and have way less then a grand in it and all the poser supercharged f-body would ever see is my taillights. even streetheaters car I mean the way his mouth runs he’s gotta have the quickest fbody in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/125 "2006-01-28T15:47:09Z")
You can’t just drop a T-rex in a stock car and expect to beat a ATI setup. Probably wouldn’t even beat the P1 setup. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/126 "2006-01-28T15:50:47Z")
> [@StealthZ](#): > > You can’t just drop a T-rex in a stock car and expect to beat a ATI setup. Probably wouldn’t even beat the P1 setup. a t rex car with full bolt ons, has run a best of 10.43, thats with stock heads, and stock short block a full bolt on superchared car, with stock short block and stock heads will not go that fast ---
**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/127 "2006-01-28T15:59:54Z")
> [@StealthZ](#): > > You can’t just drop a T-rex in a stock car and expect to beat a ATI setup. Probably wouldn’t even beat the P1 setup. In a heartbeat I will. Superchargers on stock ls1’s = :jerkit: Not a very good bang for the buck ---
**Author:** ![amwellls1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@amwellls1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/amwellls1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/128 "2006-01-28T16:02:12Z")
> [@Streetnstrip](#): > > even streetheaters car I mean the way his mouth runs he’s gotta have the quickest fbody in the USA. If not the quickest at least the gayest! ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/129 "2006-01-28T16:06:57Z")
> [@00BlackSS](#): > > a t rex car with full bolt ons, has run a best of 10.43, thats with stock heads, and stock short block > > a full bolt on superchared car, with stock short block and stock heads will not go that fast I disagree… explane why it wont when its making more power from 1000rpm to redline. All else being equal the ATI will win. > [@amwellls1](#): > > In a heartbeat I will. Superchargers on stock ls1’s = :jerkit: > > Not a very good bang for the buck I never said it was a good bang for the buck setup. The $/hp ratio isnt great at all, but a D-1 pushing 8-12lbs with the same mods as a t-rex’d car will win. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/130 "2006-01-28T16:31:12Z")
you take that D-1 ill take a T-rex and 100 shot lets see who’s tailights are seen. going to say the blown car ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/131 "2006-01-28T16:47:35Z")
Nitrous wasn’t factored in for either setup. The ONLY point I was trying to make was that the ATI procharger setup is better than a head/cam setup on a stock block ls1. This is also just IMO due to the fact that I own neither of the 2 currently, but I’ve been reading the pro/cons of both becuase Im choosing between the two. ---
**Author:** ![Streetnstrip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Streetnstrip](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Streetnstrip)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/132 "2006-01-28T16:53:49Z")
> [@StealthZ](#): > > Nitrous wasn’t factored in for either setup. The ONLY point I was trying to make was that the ATI procharger setup is better than a head/cam setup on a stock block ls1. > > This is also just IMO due to the fact that I own neither of the 2 currently, but I’ve been reading the pro/cons of both becuase Im choosing between the two. Ill tell u what u buy a supercharger kit for ur car and insatll it on ur car. If ur car is an auto then make sure u put a converter in it. Now ill go buy thunders Cheater Cam install it in my firehawk with a stock converter, stock manifolds, stock intake, pretty much stock everything including the tune. I garentee I beat ur ATI setup at the track racing or on the street. I would even put $1000.00 on it. ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/133 "2006-01-28T17:03:22Z")
pittspeed winter…where the keyboard gets more wear then the tires do ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/134 "2006-01-28T17:07:50Z")
Care to explane why you make that claim? I’d take that bet in a heart beat if I had the procharger setup. The cheater cam WITH heads is only putting down 400hp (got that straight from their site). ---
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/135 "2006-01-28T17:11:58Z")
how about a stock long block with just a TR224 making 380rwhp and was a tuned rich? and whats the cheater cam? blowers are nice but not always practical ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/136 "2006-01-28T17:14:37Z")
Cheater cam is a 214/230 on a 117 lsa. The TR 224 112lsa makes more power than that, regarless, neither cam is making 480+ hp. Besides the T-rex is all peak power, you have to gear the shit out of that cam and you still got nothing down low. The d-1 running 8psi will def. win over the cheater cam. ---
**Author:** ![VictorSmalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/victorsmalls/32/5944_2.png) [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/137 "2006-01-28T17:19:36Z")
How about you just put one in your car if your so sure and find out. I don’t know you but i’m sure the JJ’s guys have put together many more LS1s than you :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/138 "2006-01-28T17:26:15Z")
Oh by far they know more than me about LS1’s/cars ect… And trust me, money permitting, I’ll get the procharger setup. But I still stick by what Im saying about the matter. Given the numbers and times people are running with the 2 setups, the procharger is better. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/139 "2006-01-28T18:17:42Z")
> [@GeneralG](#): > > :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: > > I vote for a pro tree…at the first test n tune > > Could be alot of fun…maybe some V6 guys will come play too! ill put a couple hundred against the silver street heater camaro 🙂 on street tires against the gtp or the chevelle ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826/140 "2006-01-28T18:21:31Z")
i put down 380 w/ a 3200 stall rich tune n cats 224 cam i did well with that ! on stock heads and others w/ m6 stock heads 224 put a lil above 400 rwhp [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/response/179826.md?page=8)