# REST IN PEACE...: Custom Bing's Manifold - Externally Gated

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [July 27, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495 "2005-07-27T18:55:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/41 "2005-08-22T18:22:32Z")

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> [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](#):
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> Dan glad to see it all worked out for you…
> 
> Now get that thing on a Dyno see what she put’s down at 16psi then Take her to the track.

Agreed

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/42 "2005-08-22T21:01:26Z")

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I ran a 13.3, Sasha ran an amazing 12.2 you sir have to be somewhere in there.

I’m sick and tired of seeing these 14.7 Second 240’s at the track.

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/43 "2005-08-23T07:04:41Z")

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> [@GT](#):
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> then best had to be when you came back with bing in the car and hes just sitting there grinning and twitching.
> 
> :lol:
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> GT

Bahahah – that’s it right there…

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/44 "2005-08-24T19:39:50Z")

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> [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](#):
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> I ran a 13.3, Sasha ran an amazing 12.2 you sir have to be somewhere in there.
> 
> I’m sick and tired of seeing these 14.7 Second 240’s at the track.

Let’s try to setup a drag event for the end of the summer. I’ve got a new turbo on order and will be looking to give it a workout.

I’ll be ready to go in about 2 weeks.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_SG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sasha_sg/32/5477_2.png) [@Sasha\_SG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sasha_SG)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/45 "2005-08-24T19:51:47Z")

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I’m gonna run the quarter mile

- with my feet

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/46 "2005-08-24T19:52:22Z")

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> [@Happy240sx](#):
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> [quote=SHIFT\_KA24DET]I ran a 13.3, Sasha ran an amazing 12.2 you sir have to be somewhere in there.
> 
> I’m sick and tired of seeing these 14.7 Second 240’s at the track.

Let’s try to setup a drag event for the end of the summer. I’ve got a new turbo on order and will be looking to give it a workout.

I’ll be ready to go in about 2 weeks.[/quote]

I’d be interested in running my setup at the drag for kicks but I dunno  
when I’ll get my lazy ass to get it running. :o

I’m just curios on what it’d run.

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/47 "2005-09-14T16:21:08Z")

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Hahaha – well it looks like this thing is now dieing a slow death.

I have now discovered a hairline crack where the wastegate tube meets the collector.

I think I actually felt it go a few days ago on my way to work. I was logging some 16psi pulls getting ready for some dyno time next week and I felt it actually “pop”.

I got a little over a month out of this setup and the shitty thing is I now need to baby it for 5-6 weeks until I can pull it out.

I’m not sure I can go that long without pounding on my car.

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**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/48 "2005-09-14T20:25:30Z")

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that crack is right above the weld correct… SO even a high end welder can’t save these headers from dying…

So, who’s going to start up the shite talking about crap welding on this one?? everyone was quick to jump on the last one that broke, everyone was a professional then. :squintfinger:

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**Author:** ![GT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/49 "2005-09-14T21:15:39Z")

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^ you know you just ASK to be insulted dont you…

one false comment and this gets locked… and such

GT

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/50 "2005-09-15T03:28:34Z")

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> [@BAS](#):
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> that crack is right above the weld correct… SO even a high end welder can’t save these headers from dying…
> 
> So, who’s going to start up the shite talking about crap welding on this one?? everyone was quick to jump on the last one that broke, everyone was a professional then. :squintfinger:

Well - the interesting part here is the crack is actually on the WG tube side…not on the manifold side. So the mani is still good. I’m sure if I cared I could have it welded up again…but I just don’t

I’m going to the best this time…

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**Author:** ![slipperysilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slipperysilvia/32/5485_2.png) [@slipperysilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slipperysilvia)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/51 "2005-09-15T05:17:36Z")

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dan, dont bother with the external wastegate man…just get any HKS-GT series turbo with the HKS internal wastegate and run any manifold that fits well. Use the megan downpipe with the flex in it, and chance are ure manifold will not crack at all. The exhaust shaking left to right is what breaks the manifolds and the 4 hole (turbo- manifold) gasket…I suggest doing what i did, using a megan style manifold with a good ceramic coating…did a sick job for my car…

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_SG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sasha_sg/32/5477_2.png) [@Sasha\_SG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sasha_SG)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/52 "2005-09-15T14:27:27Z")

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external gates are awesome they spool up so much faster and control boost so much more accuratly than stupid ass internal peices of shit

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**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/53 "2005-09-15T14:34:26Z")

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where did the tube on the wg side split ?

at the seam on the mild steel or away from the seam ?

i could see the seam cracking/splitting for sure

just to add to varun’s post… exhaust movement/weight can be a cause for the manifold itself to crack perhaps but the richer the car runs the quicker the header will crack from burning of fuel in the manifold

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/54 "2005-09-15T17:34:42Z")

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Nah man…external \> \*\*

I’ve already ordered my Full-Race ProStreet Manifold (externally gated obviously) so I’m sure I’ll be good.

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/55 "2005-09-15T18:03:31Z")

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I have to say it Dan but I told you it would crack…

Now with this New Proper Manifold we “actually” going to see 300whp?

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/56 "2005-09-16T04:20:27Z")

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> [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](#):
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> I have to say it Dan but I told you it would crack…
> 
> Now with this New Proper Manifold we “actually” going to see 300whp?

Hahah - I hear ya buddy. I guess I just drove it “too” hard. 🙂

I’ll strap her on as soon as we have the new mani in place. 300 should be quit easy with the newer setup

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_SG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sasha_sg/32/5477_2.png) [@Sasha\_SG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sasha_SG)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/57 "2005-09-19T21:51:52Z")

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i want 3 things

cams

intake mani

exhaust mani

and then just cause im greedy

splitfire coilpacks

that is all

lets go drag racing

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/58 "2005-09-19T22:19:28Z")

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> [@Happy240sx](#):
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> Hahah - I hear ya buddy. I guess I just drove it “too” hard. 🙂

That’s what I like to hear… 😉

> [@Sasha (Turbo)](#):
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> i want 3 things
> 
> cams
> 
> intake mani
> 
> exhaust mani
> 
> and then just cause im greedy
> 
> splitfire coilpacks
> 
> that is all
> 
> lets go drag racing

^^^ Don’t you mean 4 things. The 4th being a working motor?

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/59 "2005-09-20T04:22:37Z")

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Well - I BABIED it for another week (no boost, neverf shifter higher than 4k) and it is now officially undriveable.

It is going to be a long 5 weeks until it is up an running again… sux

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rest-in-peace-custom-bings-manifold-externally-gated/87495/60 "2005-10-16T15:05:40Z")

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So – it’s time to finally close this chapter on this little experiment.

I finally had some time today to get under the hood and rip this thing out… below is some of the sadness.

Slarted early while the g/f was sleeping…so needed some light.  
 ![http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/wip.jpg](http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/wip.jpg)

Started to wiggle the wastegate and …oops…

![http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/dead.jpg](http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/dead.jpg)  
 ![http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/dead2.jpg](http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/dead2.jpg)

And when it was all out…I put it to rest…

![http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/rip.jpg](http://www.son240sx.ca/cpgallery/albums/userpics/11066/rip.jpg)

Final project tally…

Manifold: $230  
Ceramic Coating: $150  
Custom Fab Work: $50  
Flanges and tubing: $50

Lesson learned: Priceless

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