# Retardedly expensive audio equipment... and a LOT more... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 22, 2006, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364 "2006-05-22T09:55:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![\_nails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/58956e/32.png) [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/121 "2006-05-22T20:30:38Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > Another one. That’s what an ad hominem is. Attacking the messenger is a great way to show that the situation isn’t fully understood (or that the person made a decision as to which side to align with and used some lovely justification techniques to make the situation seem less complicated than what it is). Please stop playing dress-up. Neither side here has seen that the situation is a problem on both sides and not just one. It takes two to tango. > > Listen, if you have anything to say about my sexuality you can bring it up with me in person. Otherwise it’s no stretch of the imagination to believe that you’re nothing but a coward. I think I tread lightly on that subject because it has no place on a car forum. I tend to show people a little more respect than what I’m given because I believe in karma, and I know you probably believe in hell. And I’d be so happy to offer you the opportunity to smell your own flesh burn off your bones. don’t sweat the hateful white trash, they won’t ever get it. they’d rather spend time hating people for personal decisions that don’t affect them than worrying about their own problems. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/122 "2006-05-22T20:36:39Z")
snails im me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/123 "2006-05-22T20:47:41Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > I don’t like you. You touch guys. You also have an automatic car. > > And it’s more of a hasty generalization than ad hominem. Wow, good post asswipe :tup: Shows your character very well. ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/124 "2006-05-22T20:50:10Z")
BAN BAN BAN nobody will picks on corey without recourse ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/125 "2006-05-22T21:30:47Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#): > > …Macintosh…Macintosh… > > …Professional sound as a side job. It’s McIntosh, not a personal computer or a fruit you should know that. 😉 [/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/126 "2006-05-22T21:33:59Z")
> [@sureshot007](#): > > If you have never experienced them, you will never understand… It’s true, and trust me, it is a sickness that is best avoided… ---
**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/127 "2006-05-22T21:35:00Z")
man those are some crazy speakers… ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/128 "2006-05-22T21:52:04Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > It’s McIntosh, not a personal computer or a fruit you should know that. 😉 > > [/nitpick] thank you for pointing that out ok you do it as a profession, where CC or BB. seriously and what B&W’s where you compairing them to, LM series, what amp was powering the speakers? congrats you work a minimum wage job, ya i go to school full time, have all those expenses, and work maybe if I am lucky if i work 20 hours a week. Now that is stated, what the fuck is that suppose to mean. I will put my $1500 rig up against your “$3000” rig any day of the week. and shit i will even not use my tube marantz from the 60’s. I have a shitty nad pre and an integra adm 2.1 solid state amp. you say it sends a clear signal, what is the distortion on it? you probably are even using monster cables, because they are “Low end of the high end spectrum” it says you are from the rochester area, really where do you do this professionally, i know its not sound works. Shit i will put my money on my truck being wired with better cables than you rig, now please don’t imput in any thread that talks about audiophile quality speakers or rigs. And if you say you have supurb sound, what red book did you test it with? ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/129 "2006-05-22T21:54:22Z")
New can of worms = opened. My job is finished. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/130 "2006-05-22T22:00:30Z")
What the fuck drama. ---
**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/131 "2006-05-22T22:01:35Z")
some guys have an ass that works as a dyno and some guys have ears that work like an RTA ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/132 "2006-05-22T22:04:37Z")
I feel like a noob now because I had to look-up what RTA meant. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![\_nails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/58956e/32.png) [@\_nails](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_nails)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/133 "2006-05-22T23:44:25Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > I feel like a noob now because I had to look-up what RTA meant. ☹ take the school bus NOOB! just kidding. i listen to an ipod rigged through a cassette deck over stock paper cone speakers… 🙂 i also think the sound of vynil is superior to almost any other format. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/134 "2006-05-23T00:18:45Z")
Dunno old school reel-to-reel tapes sound damn good too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/135 "2006-05-23T06:15:20Z")
![http://www.gryphon-audio.dk/images/products/poseidon/1.jpg](http://www.gryphon-audio.dk/images/products/poseidon/1.jpg) FOR $250,000!!! or you can go back to the future ![http://www.higherfi.com/Wilson_X2_Alexandria.jpg](http://www.higherfi.com/Wilson_X2_Alexandria.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![badazzss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@badazzss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/badazzss)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/136 "2006-05-23T06:20:16Z")
um no, its called i left work for the day and don’t live on the board 24/7. anyways, the problem w/ the sig is that although its opinion based, it is WRONG. not just wrong in truth level, but WRONG to associate the US leaders w/ a pic of someone jumping from one of the towers. if you can somehow find a way in your mind to find a direct correlation between those things, you’re just not that intelligent. and newman u said in a post somewhere how u knew i would make the argument… about… if u talk shit to me online, does it justify me fighting u in person. okay, so, how the extremists responded with anger/force to the US in answer to - - what - - how the US leaders were making decisons? how they were acting? how they were leading OUR country like it needed to be led? how acting as one of the superpowers in the world makes other nations hate us? the US needs to act like it does, or else other countries will assume the role. sure we COULD act like canada; but hey if canada’s so nice, you can always move there. anyways, so my comparison was that if u talk shit to me online, does it justify me fighting u in person. if u say my camaro sucks and u make sigs and statements that don’t seem right TO ME and u tell everyone that GM sucks… i should just snap and want to attack right? i guess it depends… if i attacked u from behind, that doesnt seem very fair. (but thats what happened). but what if i called u out to your face, and then we fought - seems more reasonable right? my final thought is this: although the extremists didnt like how the US or its leaders were acting, they didnt take the right course of action. there is no reasonable way the US leaders can be blamed for the deaths of anyone from 9/11. although u seem to know your politics, your reasoning (and ideology) is just fucked up. your sig is garbage and anyone who backs it up = not smrt. (yes beck, i spelled it wrong just for u, please look up the correct spelling and let me know). ON TOPIC: anyways, if 100k for speakers wasnt enough, who THE HELL would pay 250k for them? if someone gave me 250k right now, i could live comfortably for the rest of my life… … … > [@newman](#): > > i guess i really shut up badazzss? ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/137 "2006-05-23T07:00:04Z")
Alright, So I don’t feel like reading 6 pages of responses. So if this was already mentioned, I apologize. Problem with Newman’s sig: What if it was your father/uncle/brother/son/cousin that was falling from the tower? It’s not the image of the towers on fire, or the notion that the president is responsible for it that bothers me. It is the graphic image of a real person falling to their death. And maybe if one of your loved ones died in that attack, and possibly the same way, you would understand why it is completely tasteless. BTW: The speaker shop wouldn’t take any of you to the upstairs if you are bitching about paying that kind of cash for speakers. ---
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/138 "2006-05-23T07:01:50Z")
Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ---
**Author:** ![audios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@audios](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/audios)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/139 "2006-05-23T08:24:54Z")
my little bit of opinion on the speakers: who can tell me which car drives BETTER. a ferrari 360 (hardtop for arguments sake) or a 911 turbo (old style for same argument’s sake) not alot of people here can…but the analogy i am trying to make (i am sorry if someone else made this same one, i could not read all the bullshit) is that the difference between the two cars is negligable. no realyy, argue all you want, but really when it comes down to it, they are very close chassis to chassis stock v stock etc. so now everyone will bring in price and bang for buck blah blah blah. lets skip that, it has been done before, just do a search. now ask someone, who’s first thrill ride of their lives when they were a kid was in a ferrari. or lets say someone who watched ferris buellers day off and saw cam’s dads car and that was their first “cool” car. for their money, the ferrari willprolly be the “better” car. the point i am trying to make is that in the world of audio there is alot more left to interpretation than you think, and even more so than cars because there is no real way to put a speakers abilities down on paper. everyones ear is different. everyone’s bedroom is different. cant compare two speakers fairly unless it is with the same source, same power and same position in a certain setting AT THE VERY LEAST. i will say this. yes, usually the higher the price speaker the better the sound quality assuming you have the supporting cast. no sense having martin logan electrostatics with a shitty yamaha stack (before anyone goes there, i know yamaha makes some excellent stuff, which is why i said shitty, they do make stuff for cheap and you get what you pay for) people who say their 3k bundle package from best buy sounds better than any B&W bookshelves for the same price blah blah blah…well you are entitled to your opinion. all i am gonna say is if i were spending 3k, i would have done better research. onto the final point: some people, just like collecting cars, dont care about the price, or price variation in comparison to competitors etc. some auido nuts buy entirely new/different/experimental setups to play their vinyl on, JUST BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY GIVES THEM A BONER. listening to music isnt listening to music anymore. their hobby is listening to the differences in the reproduction accuracy of everything. digital, stereo, 5 channel audio, 7 channel audio, dvd audio etc etc. there are people who have 50,000 dollar VHS players and will argue to the bone that video for video VHS is better than DVD (and in some cases they can be) so is 100,000 really worth it? its all relative baby, and in more ways than one. fin ---
**Author:** ![jeeves744](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeeves744/32/7619_2.png) [@jeeves744](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeeves744)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364/140 "2006-05-23T11:07:12Z")
> [@zwarbyt](#): > > Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr wow its cool that someone was able to capture your picture when you came to those two realizations. :tup: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/retardedly-expensive-audio-equipment-and-a-lot-more/12364.md?page=8)