# Revenge

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 19, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383 "2009-12-19T20:28:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/61 "2009-12-22T12:57:08Z")

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> [@The names,,,, Kevin,,,, Wheatfield NY](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-names-kevin-wheatfield-ny/41784/25):
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> lol, well what didnt you buy? cause you sure as hell havent built a car thats been on the road.
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> remember your yuppie status has led you to buy highend cars that are so superior to low grade cars thus why your not finishing your cabby cause your too good for it. it would ruin your yuppie status your trying to achieve
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> :blue:

I didn’t buy a car from a junk yard, or one that will be in a junk yard in 4 years… sorry bro, i just don’t like GM cars 🙂

and i’m confused now… so anyone that buys a car to drive is a yuppie… and why call my other cars low grade… isn’t that the same fucking thing that you are saying I am guilty of???

you’re a hypocrite and an idiot bro… you tell me i’m a smug yuppie becuase i talk shit on people’s cars, but then you go ahead and do that to me haha… the irony is so strong.

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### Author: ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/62 "2009-12-22T13:00:53Z")

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You guys should take this too myspace and stay out my thread

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### Author: ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/63 "2009-12-22T13:07:12Z")

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i like turtles

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### Author: ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/64 "2009-12-22T13:08:33Z")

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> [@i love this kid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-this-kid/41837/24):
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> i like turtles

DUDE… quit picking on cobalts… they have awesome track records… you can PM bics or quik for details.

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### Author: ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/65 "2009-12-22T13:13:09Z")

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Like many other GM’s the best part about the Cobalt is the engine. It is ashame that they have idiots running the show they really could have some great products and a 4cyl midsize car could be one of them.

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### Author: ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/66 "2009-12-22T13:19:21Z")

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> [@i love this kid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-this-kid/41837/25):
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> Like many other GM’s the best part about the Cobalt is the engine. It is ashame that they have idiots running the show they really could have some great products and a 4cyl midsize car could be one of them.

That is truth for the most part, and when they do bring a solid car to the market it gets killed 2 years later (G8). I will say I have always been impressed with their whole focus on perforamce/$$$

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### Author: ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/67 "2009-12-22T13:20:04Z")

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> [@i love this kid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-this-kid/41837/25):
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> Like many other GM’s the best part about the Cobalt is the engine. It is ashame that they have idiots running the show they really could have some great products and a 4cyl midsize car could be one of them.

i think the handling is just as impressive as the motor. i dont feel like you can fault GM much on the car. it outperforms many cars, almost all of them cost more. what more do u want out of a car that is only $24k brand new. want a luxory interior to go along with that performance, look elsewhere. ill take plastic dashboards and no frills interior and hi-level of performance all day long in a sport compact. you gotta sacrifice somewhere. if i wanted the best of both worlds, id be prepared to spend alot more money. the car does exactly what it was designed to do. go fast for cheap.

the only bad thing is that they killed it. that part u are 100% correct. but i think they do alot in the right direction. they r better than some other manufacturers at giving you performacne / dollar

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### Author: ![sasquach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@sasquach](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquach)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/68 "2009-12-22T13:48:18Z")

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> [@smokers who quit. howd ya do it?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smokers-who-quit-howd-ya-do-it/41841/22):
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> im a POS from rocks.

Your dad didn’t have a black 79 Trans Am with an airbrushed bird on the hood did he ?

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### Author: ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/69 "2009-12-22T14:13:32Z")

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in befo da :lockd:

:1320:

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### Author: ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/70 "2009-12-22T15:15:57Z")

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> [@The names,,,, Kevin,,,, Wheatfield NY](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-names-kevin-wheatfield-ny/41784/26):
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> I didn’t buy a car from a junk yard, or one that will be in a junk yard in 4 years… sorry bro, i just don’t like GM cars 🙂
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> and i’m confused now… so anyone that buys a car to drive is a yuppie… and why call my other cars low grade… isn’t that the same fucking thing that you are saying I am guilty of???
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> you’re a hypocrite and an idiot bro… you tell me i’m a smug yuppie becuase i talk shit on people’s cars, but then you go ahead and do that to me haha… the irony is so strong.

sorry but please read what was actually wrote and not what you interpret it as what you think it ment. i didnt bash your whips, and it figures youre against GM cars since its your nature to hug trees and be against american production workers

whats wrong with saving a car from a salvage yard? this goes on daily and ppl actually make living from it.

> [@sasquach"](#):
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> Your dad didn’t have a black 79 Trans Am with an airbrushed bird on the hood did he ?

no but i would deff rock a 77 black TA with a gold phoenix on hood

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### Author: ![jcxcr4000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jcxcr4000/32/5980_2.png) [@jcxcr4000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jcxcr4000)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/71 "2009-12-22T17:33:33Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL '07-'08 BUFFALO SABRES SEASON THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-07-08-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/36504/1081):
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> least not a POS civic

why you got to bring my car into this if is such a piece of shit why is the engine considered way better then the crap in a almost all the gm garbage on the roads

[http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/2010\_10best\_engines\_of\_the\_moment\_-10best\_cars](http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/2010_10best_engines_of_the_moment_-10best_cars)

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### Author: ![sasquach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@sasquach](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquach)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/72 "2009-12-22T17:49:28Z")

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I had a 4 door Cougar once

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### Author: ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/73 "2009-12-22T19:17:23Z")

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> [@How big is your tool box? Included Picture!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-big-is-your-tool-box-included-picture/41845/9):
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> why you got to bring my car into this if is such a piece of shit why is the engine considered way better then the crap in a almost all the gm garbage on the roads
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> [[http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/2010\_10best\_engines\_of\_the\_moment\_-10best\_cars](http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/2010_10best_engines_of_the_moment_-10best_cars)]("[http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/2010\_10best\_engines\_of\_the\_moment\_-10best\_cars\](http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/2010_10best_engines_of_the_moment_-10best_cars%5C))

you cant be serious, you truely cant be serious

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### Author: ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/74 "2009-12-22T20:03:54Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/41834/9):
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> i think the handling is just as impressive as the motor. i dont feel like you can fault GM much on the car. it outperforms many cars, almost all of them cost more. what more do u want out of a car that is only $24k brand new. want a luxory interior to go along with that performance, look elsewhere. ill take plastic dashboards and no frills interior and hi-level of performance all day long in a sport compact. you gotta sacrifice somewhere. if i wanted the best of both worlds, id be prepared to spend alot more money. the car does exactly what it was designed to do. go fast for cheap.
> 
> the only bad thing is that they killed it. that part u are 100% correct. but i think they do alot in the right direction. they r better than some other manufacturers at giving you performacne / dollar

By no means am I putting down the Cobalt as a whole. I get what they were offering and love it. Bang for the buck the car is great. Having a well designed suspension is easy IMO, most cars in that class can compare handling wise. Designing a great engine with a easy path to mod is pure genius. It is just a shame that they blew money on worthless projects (Hummer, recreating SAAB, etc) instead of focusing on where they were showing success. The G8 is another great example. That showed tons of promise from exterior design all the way to the power plant. Produce an AWD version and you will start to compete with the Audi A4/A6, VW Passat, Infiniti G37X, BMW 335ix/535ix, Legacy GT, and everything else in that class.

Think about a GM if they focused there time where the consumer is willing to spend money.

Sport Compact - Cobalt  
Midsize - G6  
Full Size/Full Size Sport - G8  
Sports Cars - Camaro/Corvette  
SUV - Blazer/Yukon

F the Malibu, Suburban, impala, and don’t even try to product a van anymore. Go back to the core of what people want and start all over.

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### Author: ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/75 "2009-12-22T23:40:40Z")

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All of you guys should just fuck each other and get it over with.

It is a shame that GM put as much effort into the new Cobalt SS as they did because I think its fate has been forever sealed as a throwaway car. Pair this with GM’s current reputation for build quality and there you have it.

GM just doesn’t have a clue on what the people really want and where to focus their sights on competition-wise, as Whitey stated.

P.S. My Cavalier will pull more trim than any of your rides, combined. Pussies.

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### Author: ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/76 "2009-12-23T04:35:38Z")

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> [@whitey"](#):
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> By no means am I putting down the Cobalt as a whole. I get what they were offering and love it. Bang for the buck the car is great. Having a well designed suspension is easy IMO, most cars in that class can compare handling wise. Designing a great engine with a easy path to mod is pure genius. It is just a shame that they blew money on worthless projects (Hummer, recreating SAAB, etc) instead of focusing on where they were showing success. The G8 is another great example. That showed tons of promise from exterior design all the way to the power plant. Produce an AWD version and you will start to compete with the Audi A4/A6, VW Passat, Infiniti G37X, BMW 335ix/535ix, Legacy GT, and everything else in that class.
> 
> Think about a GM if they focused there time where the consumer is willing to spend money.
> 
> Sport Compact - Cobalt  
> Midsize - G6  
> Full Size/Full Size Sport - G8  
> Sports Cars - Camaro/Corvette  
> SUV - Blazer/Yukon
> 
> F the Malibu, Suburban, impala, and don’t even try to product a van anymore. Go back to the core of what people want and start all over.

> [@2000 Jettta GPS question!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2000-jettta-gps-question/41856/2):
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> All of you guys should just fuck each other and get it over with.
> 
> It is a shame that GM put as much effort into the new Cobalt SS as they did because I think **_its fate has been forever sealed as a throwaway car_**. Pair this with GM’s current reputation for build quality and there you have it.
> 
> GM just doesn’t have a clue on what the people really want and where to focus their sights on competition-wise, as Whitey stated.
> 
> P.S. My Cavalier will pull more trim than any of your rides, combined. Pussies.

Both well put, except for the Cavalier pulling trim :kekegay:

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### Author: ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/77 "2009-12-23T05:29:37Z")

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> [@whitey"](#):
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> Think about a GM if they focused there time where the consumer is willing to spend money.
> 
> Sport Compact - Cobalt  
> Midsize - G6  
> Full Size/Full Size Sport - G8  
> Sports Cars - Camaro/Corvette  
> SUV - Blazer/Yukon
> 
> F the Malibu, Suburban, impala, and don’t even try to product a van anymore. Go back to the core of what people want and start all over.

ya i agree with most of what you are saying. i question alot of what they do, in that respect, also. i guess the only thing i was trying to say was that i love how when it comes to performance / dollar that GM pretty much produces cars that can performa at a price level above in almost every class (cobalt SS, all the corvettes, G8 etc). and in doing so, alot of ppl like to complain about the interiors other small aspects. but its obvious that there have to be corners cut in order to deliver a car with a high level of performance at a lower cost. i dont think i’d care about the interior of a c6 z06 when you can hang with almost any exotic. just like i dont care that my dash is plastic in my car because it can run with an Evo or Sti at a much lower cost. for that GM should be praised.

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### Author: ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2009, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/78 "2009-12-23T11:39:57Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL '07-'08 BUFFALO SABRES SEASON THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-07-08-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/36504/1084):
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> ya i agree with most of what you are saying. i question alot of what they do, in that respect, also. i guess the only thing i was trying to say was that i love how when it comes to performance / dollar that GM pretty much produces cars that can performa at a price level above in almost every class (cobalt SS, all the corvettes, G8 etc). and in doing so, alot of ppl like to complain about the interiors other small aspects. but its obvious that there have to be corners cut in order to deliver a car with a high level of performance at a lower cost. i dont think i’d care about the interior of a c6 z06 when you can hang with almost any exotic. just like i dont care that my dash is plastic in my car because it can run with an Evo or Sti at a much lower cost. for that GM should be praised.

that is how a gearhead thinks but that’s not how most others think. The mustang gets killed in performance compared to the camaro but still sells a ton of them because it’s a better complete package. Once GM figures that out, it will be good for them.

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### Author: ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/79 "2009-12-23T11:45:56Z")

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> [@whitey"](#):
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> F the Malibu,

I have one, nicest GM I’ve ever driven.

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### Author: ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/80 "2009-12-23T11:51:36Z")

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> [@whitey"](#):
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> F the Malibu, Suburban, impala, and don’t even try to product a van anymore.

I think the Impala is selling pretty strong for GM right now.

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