# Revenge **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 19, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383 "2009-12-19T20:28:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 34
**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383/34 "2009-12-22T10:28:11Z")
> [@i love this kid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-this-kid/41837/21): > > beyond that, i’m not the one touting off incorrect information about how superior some ‘eco cars’ are… … not tryin to be ‘that guy’ but really if you wanna get technical, the SS still has the fastest FWD production vehicle. the Renault that is above it is a limited edition model of only 450 made and it has a 6-point harness, rear seat removed, no soundproofing, wipers and a bunch of other shit stripped off the car to shave weight etc. depending on how you look at it, either are correct. but like i said, if Renault has to do all that to get a 4 second faster ring lap time than the SS, then id like to see the SS stock with the gm stage set-up. it still carries the warranty, and has all the normal features and is still mass produced. i realize it doesnt matter, i was just looking to save face a bit. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/revenge/204383)._