# Rich People (\>200k income) voted for Obama
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [November 5, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661 "2008-11-05T08:21:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/1 "2008-11-05T08:21:16Z")
Where is your fearmongering now?
Also, the $75k - 200k responses were damned near split.
[http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1](http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1)
National Exit polls with 17,836 responses
Vote by Income
Total Obama McCain Other/No Answer
Under $15,000 (6%)73% 25% 2%
$15-30,000 (12%) 60% 37% 3%
$30-50,000 (19%) 55% 43% 2%
$50-75,000 (21%) 48% 49% 3%
$75-100,000 (15%) **51** % 48% 1%
$100-150,000 (14%) 48% **51** % 1%
$150-200,000 (6%) 48% **50** % 2%
$200,000 or More (6%) **52** % 46% 2%
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### Author:  [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/2 "2008-11-05T08:23:41Z")
no shit
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/3 "2008-11-05T08:24:06Z")
Exit polls?:cjerk:
I will post some spam email too.š
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/4 "2008-11-05T08:24:24Z")
It would appear that half the rich understand that a strong middle class will make them richer than the increase in taxes will make them poorer.
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### Author:  [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/5 "2008-11-05T08:25:08Z")
swept $50k & underā¦ but that only accounted for 37% of responsesā¦
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Exit polls?
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> I will post some spam email too.
Didnāt realize that CNN LINKS were spam emails.
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### Author:  [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/6 "2008-11-05T08:42:14Z")
my uncle is a lawyer, as is his wife, they live in a million dollar house on the beach in cape cod, and they both voted for obama :gotme:
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### Author:  [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/7 "2008-11-05T08:44:34Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> It would appear that half the rich understand that a strong middle class will make them richer than the increase in taxes will make them poorer.
A key factor that certain people here refuse to understand haha
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/8 "2008-11-05T08:47:09Z")
exit polls donāt mean shit, sorry. no one is ever truthful
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/9 "2008-11-05T08:48:05Z")
> [@BooSting](#):
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> swept $50k & underā¦ but that only accounted for 37% of responsesā¦
>
> Didnāt realize that CNN LINKS were spam emails.
I didnāt mean that, I just meant crap in general.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/10 "2008-11-05T08:56:42Z")
āNational Exit polls with 17,836 responsesā
Well that has to be right.
So they polled 1,070 ā200K+ā people.
I know many 200k people and they are not stopping to take a poll.
Plus what was the income verification?
Sometimes I check that box because I want to feel better about myself.
Do you think people on myspace put their actual income?
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### Author:  [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/11 "2008-11-05T08:57:50Z")
Blue Eyed Devil, havenāt you done that enough? Get over it. Your boy lost, and now youāre going to cry about it for 4 years? Shut it. Most people on here donāt give a crap what you have to say politically.
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### Author:  [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/12 "2008-11-05T09:20:28Z")
> [@BigRon](#):
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> āNational Exit polls with 17,836 responsesā
>
> Well that has to be right.
>
> So they polled 1,070 ā200K+ā people.
> I know many 200k people and they are not stopping to take a poll.
>
> Plus what was the income verification?
> Sometimes I check that box because I want to feel better about myself.
> Do you think people on myspace put their actual income?
okay, fine, going on your assumption that they lied about their incomes.
Let me break this down a little furtherā¦
CNN reporting that of the popular vote, Obama won 52 / 46.
Of the Exit Poll sample obama won 9356 (out of 17655), so he got 53%. So, Iām going to say that the exit poll is a fair representation of the actual votes, no? If thats the case, and you take income out of the equation - the exit poll is accurate (+/- 1%), in other words people were truthful about WHOM they voted for.
Even if every single person polled lied about their ACTUAL incomes, Iām willing to bet that of those 9356 polled _not all of them were_ welfare people. :roll:
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/13 "2008-11-05T09:37:56Z")
I will agree not all of them were on welfare.
But even the fact that 6% of the people who were polled said they were $200K
Only 2.7% of the people in the US have an income of over $200K
> **[Household income in the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States)**
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> Household income is an economic measure that can be applied to one household, or aggregated across a large group such as a county, city, or the whole country. It is commonly used by the United States government and private institutions to describe a household's economic status or to track economic trends in the US. One key measure is the real median level, meaning half of households have income above that level and half below, adjusted for inflation. According to the Census, this measure was $59,...
(Yes I trust wiki more than an exit poll unless you can provide better data)
Again I will state: how many $200K+ people do you know who will stop and fill out a detailed survey. Maybe you know a bunch that have some time to spare but I donāt.
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### Author:  [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/14 "2008-11-05T09:44:23Z")
> [@Jam](#):
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> my uncle is a lawyer, as is his wife, they live in a million dollar house on the beach in cape cod, and they both voted for obama :gotme:
I hope you realize that most lawyers vote democrat for 100% greed driven reasons. Tort reform scares the pants off of them.
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### Author:  [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/15 "2008-11-05T10:08:26Z")
> [@BigRon](#):
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> I will agree not all of them were on welfare.
> But even the fact that 6% of the people who were polled said they were $200K
>
> Only 2.7% of the people in the US have an income of over $200K
> [Household income in the United States - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States)
> (Yes I trust wiki more than an exit poll unless you can provide better data)
>
> Again I will state: how many $200K+ people do you know who will stop and fill out a detailed survey. Maybe you know a bunch that have some time to spare but I donāt.
Statistics are great because they provide validation. However they are subject to the interpretation of those that are using them for that purpose. So, I realize that this is going nowhere. š
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rich-people-200k-income-voted-for-obama/57661/16 "2008-11-05T10:46:15Z")
Stats are great when the data is reliable.
Even the one commentator on CNN kept saying how worthless the exit polls are but it was the only thing they had to fill 6+ hours of coverage.
If Tom Bradley taught us nothing it is that exit polls are worthless. People can say whatever they want in a poll. (yes I am aware that the Bradley effect would say that people would have said they were voting obama and voted McCain but that is not my point)