# Rifle Guys, Boom boom bang bang.

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 3, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562 "2012-12-03T12:21:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/361 "2012-12-27T05:50:22Z")

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> [@stuiephoto](#):
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> [http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons](http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons)
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> Watch the prices start going up after today.

This isn’t news lol

The problem is if you aim that high it either doesn’t get passed or it get hacked to bits by the time it is passed.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/362 "2012-12-27T06:22:10Z")

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Well… regarding my earlier concern, i’m all set! Impacts order fulfillment is quality and I did not lose my layaway. I paid in full last night, and when I get the confirmation email I should be all set!

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/363 "2012-12-27T08:37:21Z")

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> [@stuiephoto](#):
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> [http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons](http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons)
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> Watch the prices start going up after today.

Do you have any idea the amount of laws that try to get passed on a weekly basis in NYS alone?! They get turned down and torn apart just like LZ was saying because of guys like me who call and email our local reps. If you want to do your part but don’t have the time DO NOT join the NRA, joins SCOPE or NYSERPA or the like. The NRA does NOTHING for NYS. It’s unofficially “not worth their time.”

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/364 "2012-12-27T09:41:28Z")

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Some good clips from Clintons book on the fall out last time this happened.

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"8/1/2004–For ten years, it has been conventional political wisdom that the 1994 Assault Weapons ban cost the Democrats control of Congress. In his recently-released book “My Life,” President Clinton provides an interesting behind the scenes narrative about what took place, and the political fallout afterwards. Here are some excerpts:

“Just before the House vote (on the crime bill), Speaker Tom Foley and majority leader Dick Gephardt had made a last-ditch appeal to me to remove the assault weapons ban from the bill. They argued that many Democrats who represented closely divided districts had already…defied the NRA once on the Brady bill vote. They said that if we made them walk the plank again on the assault weapons ban, the overall bill might not pass, and that if it did, many Democrats who voted for it would not survive the election in November. Jack Brooks, the House Judiciary Committee chairman from Texas, told me the same thing…Jack was convinced that if we didn’t drop the ban, the NRA would beat a lot of Democrats by terrifying gun owners…Foley, Gephardt, and Brooks were right and I was wrong. The price…would be heavy casualties among its defenders.” (Pages 611-612)

“On November 8, we got the living daylights beat out of us, losing eight Senate races and fifty-four House seats, the largest defeat for our party since 1946…The NRA had a great night. They beat both Speaker Tom Foley and Jack Brooks, two of the ablest members of Congress, who had warned me this would happen. Foley was the first Speaker to be defeated in more than a century. Jack Brooks had supported the NRA for years and had led the fight against the assault weapons ban in the House, but as chairman of the Judiciary Committee he had voted for the overall crime bill even after the ban was put into it. The NRA was an unforgiving master: one strike and you’re out. The gun lobby claimed to have defeated nineteen of the twenty-four members on its hit list. They did at least that much damage…” (Pages 629-630)

“One Saturday morning, I went to a diner in Manchester full of men who were deer hunters and NRA members. In impromptu remarks, I told them that I knew they had defeated their Democratic congressman, Dick Swett, in 1994 because he voted for the Brady bill and the assault weapons ban. Several of them nodded in agreement.” (Page 699)

With the ban due to sunset on September 14th of this year, and Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) continuing to push for an extension of the ban, one wonders whether other members of the Democratic party will be anxious to repeat history."

Another random clip

“One conclusion that can be drawn from the 1994 battle was that the weak ban that emerged might not have been worth the cost. And there was a stiff cost. When Congress passed the assault weapons ban, the NRA vowed vengeance. Months later, the Republicans, backed by the still-outraged NRA, romped the Democrats in the midterm election, gaining 54 seats and control of the House for the first time in 40 years. Clinton, for one, believed that voting for the the assault weapons ban had cost about 20 House Democrats their seats—meaning that the measure had caused a political backlash that led to a GOP the majority in the House. If Obama and others confront the NRA, they had better expect—and prepare for—a battle that will reach a crescendo on November 4, 2014.”

Normally people in politics like to retain their jobs last time something like this happened it caused a huge backlash and gave the republicans much more power.

And 1994 was before facebook/internet if this argument gets framed around the 2nd amendment more so then being allowed to have AR15s etc they will pick up more support against it.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/365 "2012-12-27T10:54:11Z")

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> [@misteroman](#):
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> 100% serious here.

How much do you want to pay lol

.59 a rd - [http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Rifle-Ammunition|/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/Hornady-223-Remington-Ammunition/740701.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-ammunition-rifle-ammunition%2F\_%2FN-1100190%2B4294759021%2FNe-4294759021%2FNs-CATEGORY\_SEQ\_104532480%3FWTz\_l%3DDirectLoad%253Bcat104792580%253Bcat104691780%26WTz\_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz\_stype%3DGNU&WTz\_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104792580%3Bcat104691780%3Bcat104532480](http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Rifle-Ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104532480/Hornady-223-Remington-Ammunition/740701.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-ammunition-rifle-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100190%2B4294759021%2FNe-4294759021%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104532480%3FWTz_l%3DDirectLoad%253Bcat104792580%253Bcat104691780%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104792580%3Bcat104691780%3Bcat104532480)

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/366 "2012-12-27T11:41:44Z")

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For anyone who really wants ammo… Buy a couple thousand brass cases, a reloading press, powder, and bullets. You’ll be at the same cost as the price gouged ammo and have FAR superior ammo quality.

EDIT: I guess I could reload and sell it back to you?

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/367 "2012-12-27T11:58:52Z")

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Iv been wanting to reload, even more now than ever since iv been shooting a lot more .308. What your you recommend to reload 5.56 and 308. Maybe even some 9mm

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**Author:** ![FourEyed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/foureyed/32/7216_2.png) [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/368 "2012-12-27T12:00:06Z")

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Wow, if people are really paying .60 a round, it’s really tempting to sell some of mine… $550 / 1000 I would make a killing…

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/369 "2012-12-27T12:08:48Z")

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> [@llink78](#):
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> Iv been wanting to reload, even more now than ever since iv been shooting a lot more .308. What your you recommend to reload 5.56 and 308. Maybe even some 9mm

As much as I hate to just post a link …  
[http://nyshooters.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?36-Ammunition-and-Reloading](http://nyshooters.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?36-Ammunition-and-Reloading)  
A thread I started a year ago on it…  
[http://nyshooters.net/forum/showthread.php?2438-So-I-m-thinking-about-getting-into-reloading&highlight=starting](http://nyshooters.net/forum/showthread.php?2438-So-I-m-thinking-about-getting-into-reloading&highlight=starting)

> [@FourEyed](#):
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> Wow, if people are really paying .60 a round, it’s really tempting to sell some of mine… $550 / 1000 I would make a killing…

I’m thinking of doing the same to pay for a baller reloading setup.

I haven’t bought one yet because I have a good store of ammo in all the calibers I need. I don’t see ammo prices ever going down so I think this is my next move.

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/370 "2012-12-27T12:21:31Z")

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I put my spare lowers up for sale at stupid pricing.

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**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/371 "2012-12-27T12:43:14Z")

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I threw up some shit, I was thinking, the asking prices are just fucking nuts and no one is buying at that level, I was wrong. $$$

Threw up a AR on AL for giggles, I’ve been getting an email every 5min.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/372 "2012-12-27T12:43:48Z")

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In stock Lowers - [http://www.arlowers.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1AR15FSL01](http://www.arlowers.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1AR15FSL01)

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**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/373 "2012-12-27T12:45:49Z")

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Did you order yet?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/374 "2012-12-27T12:50:43Z")

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I ordered 2 from PSA the other day.

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**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/375 "2012-12-27T12:52:49Z")

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I just grabbed two, maybe sell the other and have a free lower.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/376 "2012-12-27T12:56:59Z")

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Random places pop up every other day with them in stock.

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**Author:** ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/377 "2012-12-27T13:12:05Z")

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This site is a pain in my dick.  
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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/378 "2012-12-27T13:51:38Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> Do you have any idea the amount of laws that try to get passed on a weekly basis in NYS alone?! They get turned down and torn apart just like LZ was saying because of guys like me who call and email our local reps. If you want to do your part but don’t have the time DO NOT join the NRA, joins SCOPE or NYSERPA or the like. The NRA does NOTHING for NYS. It’s unofficially “not worth their time.”

Do you realize that this is the national AWB and not state? She is in the US congress, not NY. Just because this won’t be the final bill doesn’t mean people aren’t going to price gouge because of it.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/379 "2012-12-27T14:38:47Z")

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> [@stuiephoto](#):
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> Do you realize that this is the national AWB and not state? She is in the US congress, not NY. Just because this won’t be the final bill doesn’t mean people aren’t going to price gouge because of it.

Do you realize even if the national ban fails horribly the state is still going to attempt something?

Also I don’t know if you realized but price gouging has been crazy since the shooting a few weeks ago lol

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/380 "2012-12-27T15:25:03Z")

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OK I’m done posting here. If anyone wants to find me or needs advice you know where to post and find me.

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