# Rifle Guys, Boom boom bang bang.

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 3, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562 "2012-12-03T12:21:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/601 "2013-02-15T16:01:40Z")

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> [@neonglh](#):
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> Yeah, I can’t speak for DHS, but I know DOJ has a 50 round pistol test quarterly, in addition to however many are used in the shotgun qualifier.

our qual is 72 rounds… most of us have two pistols (compact and sub compact), thats 144 rounds JUST to qualify each quarter…on top of ANY tactical training… on average, a Federal LEO with my agency shoots ~300 rounds a quarter… (not to mention any off duty practice)

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### Author: ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/602 "2013-02-17T02:07:04Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> So I thought the variations all had a unique name…
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> I will double check

Same name… different serial

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/603 "2013-03-15T07:15:52Z")

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So we have our First Safe act arrest, an Iraqi war veteran. Seems a bit like entrapment from what I have heard so far.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/604 "2013-03-15T07:32:50Z")

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It’s not fucking entrapment.

The cop told the guy he was a felon the guy said he didn’t care and sold him the firearms anyways.

Go look up the definition of entrapment and the case law that is referenced.

> **[Entrapment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment)**
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> In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offence that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit. It "is the conception and planning of an offence by an officer, and his procurement of its commission by one who would not have perpetrated it except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer." Police conduct rising to the level of entrapment is broadly discouraged and thus, in many jurisdictio...

Couple key points here

[http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/205946/37/Silver-Creek-Man-Charged-with-Violating-SAFE-Act](http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/205946/37/Silver-Creek-Man-Charged-with-Violating-SAFE-Act)

Wassell is charged with three felonies related to the sale of illegal weapons and one misdemeanor. **That misdemeanor is related to the SAFE Act which went into effect while the investigation was taking place.**

This whole thing was to catch people selling firearms to people who admitted to being felons.

SAFE Act wasn’t even passed when this started

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2013, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/605 "2013-03-15T08:43:05Z")

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It may not technically be entrapment but unless the guy was looking to break the law by finding a felon to sell to it is pretty shitty.

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/606 "2013-03-15T08:45:40Z")

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no, it’s not shitty, because he may be actively selling to felons which would be a huge fuck up.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2013, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/607 "2013-03-15T08:49:20Z")

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I hear that.

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### Author: ![jabbu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jabbu/32/7446_2.png) [@jabbu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jabbu)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/608 "2013-03-19T11:03:57Z")

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“SENATE DEMOCRATS DROP ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN FROM PROPOSED GUN CONTROL BILL”

News coming in slowly

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/609 "2013-03-19T11:27:03Z")

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Nice! That could hurt “Cuomo 2016” too.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/610 "2013-03-21T12:51:28Z")

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Without searching this entire thread, what is the deadline for registering AR15s in NY?

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/611 "2013-03-21T12:53:51Z")

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Early next year

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/612 "2013-03-21T12:54:29Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Nice! That could hurt “Cuomo 2016” too.

I think Cuomo 2016 is pretty much done after he rammed NY SAFE through unless we get a bunch more mass shootings and the national mood against additional gun control swings dramatically.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/613 "2013-03-21T12:58:45Z")

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Hopefully he is done.

So they can still be bought and sold until then? I was thinking of selling some of my stuff but wasn’t sure if it was still kosher.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/614 "2013-03-21T13:00:32Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> I think Cuomo 2016 is pretty much done after he rammed NY SAFE through unless we get a bunch more mass shootings and the national mood against additional gun control swings dramatically.

I think it was a 50/50 shot based on the landscape when it was passed

Public opinion shifted quickly the other way.

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Hopefully he is done.
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> So they can still be bought and sold until then? I was thinking of selling some of my stuff but wasn’t sure if it was still kosher.

No if you didn’t own one you can’t buy one

Now all private sales need to through a FFL also.

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### Author: ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/615 "2013-03-21T13:50:22Z")

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I guess if you don’t like someone you could just post on face book that someone bought a ar from this other guy and bam start a whole shit storm.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/616 "2013-03-21T14:03:07Z")

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So if you go to register it early next year how would they know the sale date? Just being devil’s advocate here. 🙂 It just seems strange the dates(deadlines) aren’t the same.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/617 "2013-03-21T18:14:53Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> So if you go to register it early next year how would they know the sale date? Just being devil’s advocate here. 🙂 It just seems strange the dates(deadlines) aren’t the same.

They wouldn’t so technically what you could do is buy a stripped AR lower and assemble the gun now or buy one from someone you trust(so you don’t end up on the news)

In other news

 ![http://www.nysaferesolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/576881_135115876670197_1338049642_n-800x615.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/3/936810abab854b30c891022c03d80da73b4a3b32.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/618 "2013-03-27T06:04:04Z")

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[https://youtu.be/NjdL3IDWcfU](https://youtu.be/NjdL3IDWcfU)  
And to think I really liked Jim Carry before. ☹

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### Author: ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/619 "2013-03-27T07:11:21Z")

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I’m in love.

It’s a mixmaster of parts, but it shoots beautifully and is in awesome condition. Traced the receiver back to 1944, and the barrel is date stamped March of '53. Stock is new American Black Walnut.

 ![http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/969915/fullsize/20130311_150306.jpg](http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/969915/fullsize/20130311_150306.jpg)

![http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/969919/fullsize/20130311_150617.jpg](http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/969919/fullsize/20130311_150617.jpg)

 ![http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/969920/fullsize/20130311_172826.jpg](http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/969920/fullsize/20130311_172826.jpg)

.30-'06 vs 5.56mm.

![http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/971547/fullsize/20130315_151453.jpg](http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/971547/fullsize/20130315_151453.jpg)

It shoots as good as it looks.

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#### Post date: [March 27, 2013, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rifle-guys-boom-boom-bang-bang/227562/620 "2013-03-27T07:14:25Z")

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^ yah what an idiot

Edit: Jim C not you trueblue lol

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