# Right On Red No More?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-on-red-no-more/1414296>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 4, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-on-red-no-more/1414296 "2023-10-04T10:38:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-on-red-no-more/1414296/1 "2023-10-04T10:38:37Z")

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Oh boy, “Mobility Justice” is also a thing. Starting in California:

> “We should be expanding no turn on red to every neighborhood.”

> **[San Francisco could ban right-hand turns on red. Could L.A. soon follow?](https://news.yahoo.com/san-francisco-could-ban-hand-120053706.html)**
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> San Francisco could become the second-largest city in the U.S. to ban right-hand turns on red lights. Advocates look at whether it has a shot in L.A.

> Although the practice has never been found to reduce emissions or gas consumption, the measure was adopted as a way to cut down on idling cars at red lights during the 1970s oil crisis.

Hang on a minute… then why does UPS do this? 🤔

> “A left-hand turn is also less fuel efficient,” said Jack Levis, UPS Senior Director of Process Management, “because your car’s idling longer, which is also not good for your vehicle.”

[https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/16/world/ups-trucks-no-left-turns/index.html](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/16/world/ups-trucks-no-left-turns/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Bakes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bakes/32/7469_2.png) [@Bakes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bakes)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-on-red-no-more/1414296/2 "2023-10-04T18:44:35Z")

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Management being Gov’t.

![images](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/7/a7c736f8de1183a5f4f9cea61319225139f1b2e3.jpeg)