# Right to Repair bill **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 16, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591 "2009-09-16T08:19:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/1 "2009-09-16T08:19:05Z")
No more locked factory PCMs? Good luck, but I doubt that will fly :rolljerk: [http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/x1916876377/COMMENTARY-Right-to-repair-bill-shifts-control-from-dealer-to-owner](http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/x1916876377/COMMENTARY-Right-to-repair-bill-shifts-control-from-dealer-to-owner) ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/2 "2009-09-16T08:27:36Z")
Well yeah, of course the manufacturers are going not going to like this. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/3 "2009-09-16T08:30:12Z")
I love the, “since we the taxpayers own you now just give us the codes” comments. Nice little conflict of interest brewing on this one with **G** overnment **M** otors. ---
**Author:** ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/4 "2009-09-16T09:28:04Z")
this hs been around/ttempted for a for awhile, its a good thing OBD11 was supposed to be about this, but manufacts found loops ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/5 "2009-09-16T20:42:46Z")
Most scan tools are readily availbe, they just cost big $$ I wouldn’t expect vag com like functionality ub3R cheap on every car… Generally speaking I’ve never heard of you absolutly having to go to a dealer for a diagnosis on something ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/6 "2010-07-19T09:44:28Z")
Back in the news and getting traction in Massachusetts: [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irynCE5HJW5TAy0sajBlaarg0qzgD9H1JKG85](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irynCE5HJW5TAy0sajBlaarg0qzgD9H1JKG85) [http://www.massrighttorepair.org/home.html](http://www.massrighttorepair.org/home.html) ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/7 "2010-07-19T11:54:48Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > Most scan tools are readily availbe, they just cost big $$ I wouldn’t expect vag com like functionality ub3R cheap on every car… Generally speaking I’ve never heard of you absolutly having to go to a dealer for a diagnosis on something plug in your M5 and see how much connectivity you have other than generic P codes, lol, it’s borderline comical. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/8 "2010-07-19T12:13:47Z")
So for the shop owners out there, would this help you or not really? ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/9 "2010-08-02T12:10:06Z")
The bill failed: [http://detnews.com/article/20100802/AUTO01/8020378/1148/rss25?utm\_source=twitterfeed&utm\_medium=twitter](http://detnews.com/article/20100802/AUTO01/8020378/1148/rss25?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) ---
**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/10 "2010-08-02T12:50:04Z")
I still have a dream… ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/11 "2010-08-02T12:56:23Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > The bill failed: > > [Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com](http://detnews.com/article/20100802/AUTO01/8020378/1148/rss25?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) who’s got more vested in the big three? the government or mom and pop trying to make a buck? this was doomed from day one. mom and pop cannot afford lobbyists and bribes… but the big three & more have deep pockets to keep their secrets. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/12 "2019-04-02T16:50:42Z")
Bump: > The owner or lessee of the vehicle must be able to “directly” access all of that “through a mobile-based application.” (Unfortunately, “mobile-based application” doesn’t appear to be defined.) If they choose, they can also grant permission so “all mechanical data shall be directly accessible by an independent motor vehicle repair facility or a class 1 dealer > **[Mass. bills expand ‘Right to Repair’ to make vehicle data accessible to...](https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2019/04/01/mass-bills-expand-right-to-repair-to-make-vehicle-data-accessible-to-owner-repairer/)** > > Massachusetts’ lawmakers have introduced what appear to be at least 13 virtually identical House and Senate bills seeking to expand the state’s landmark “Right to Repair” la… ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/right-to-repair-bill/73591/13 "2020-11-05T23:49:13Z")
Another bump: > “This will be the most advanced Right To Repair law in the world, opening wireless automotive diagnostics and unleashing a world of possible apps.” > **[Massachusetts voters pass right-to-repair expansion opening up car data](https://www.engadget.com/motor-vehicle-data-question-1-081059455.html)** > > One election night issue that has appears to have an answer already is the passage of Question 1 in Massachusetts, which asked voters to strengthen laws guaranteeing people are able to repair things they own. In this case, it focused on cars,...