# Riverside, CA: police raid car enthusiast gathering **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [April 14, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415 "2008-04-14T07:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/1 "2008-04-14T07:11:37Z")
> **[California: Police Raid Car Enthusiast Gathering, Generate Revenue](http://thenewspaper.com/news/23/2302.asp)** > > Police raid Riverside, California parking lot to issue modified car tickets at local car enthusiast gathering. California: Police Raid Car Enthusiast Gathering, Generate Revenue Police raid Riverside, California parking lot to issue modified car tickets at local car enthusiast gathering. Using $503,000 in federal and state gas tax revenue to pay for overtime, nine police agencies in Riverside, California sent more than one hundred police officers to surround a gathering of automotive enthusiasts. Owners of imported sport compact cars had gathered at the Canyon Crossing shopping center on Friday night to swap stories, talk about their passion for cars and show off the latest enhancements to their rides. At around 11pm police surprised participants by blocking all exits with fifty police cruisers. Officers then began a warrantless search and interrogation operation of the 150 vehicles that were present. “If you’re not into street racing, why would you need that?” Riverside Police Traffic Sergeant Skip Showalter asked an enthusiast during a similar crackdown last year. “Why would you want more power going to your car?” Police issued a total of forty-eight tickets for “engine modifications” with police accusing the owners of the parked vehicles of being street racers. Another fifty tickets were issued for paperwork violations, dark window tinting and lack of a front license plate. The most revenue, however, will be generated from the fees imposed on twenty vehicles that were confiscated. Despite labeling the parking lot raid as taking place at a “street racing venue,” Riverside Police offered no evidence that any street racing actually took place. Across the state, gas tax funds are regularly used to fund similar crackdowns that generate big revenue. In 2004, the California Highway Patrol issued a total of 101,553 “modified car” citations worth $10.5 million according to CHP data obtained by TheNewspaper. Other law enforcement agencies participating in Friday night’s raid included the California Highway Patrol, Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, and police from Baldwin Park, Fontana, Irwindale, Moreno Valley, Ontario and Mount San Jacinto Community College. how long till they do that here? and the line that said “warrantless search” makes me mad. those people werent even MOVING and they got ass reamed. if they were hiding out and waiting to catch the ones that race? sure, go ahead. thats illegal. but sneaky gestapo tactics like that? thats just dirty. ---
**Author:** ![thornton35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@thornton35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thornton35)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/2 "2008-04-14T07:13:52Z")
wow… guess i can stop bitching about colonie… LOL… yea right ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/3 "2008-04-14T07:15:35Z")
I know that shit is bad over in Cali it seems. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/4 "2008-04-14T07:20:08Z")
the restrictions over is cali are insane. I think it’s against the law to upgrade anything in your engine. You can get a ticket for having an intake. Stealth installs are big in Cali for this very reason. I saw something on tv awhile ago on how cali officers are trained to see modifications. suck for them ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/5 "2008-04-14T07:21:33Z")
That’s small change given to the amount of wasted money in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![thornton35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@thornton35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thornton35)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/6 "2008-04-14T07:22:07Z")
thats terrible… i guess you are not allowed to choose your hobbies… if it includes modifying cars ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/7 "2008-04-14T07:24:02Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > That’s small change given to the amount of wasted money in Iraq. Not to mention the other 100 countries the U.S. is involved in. The regulations in California are ridiculous though. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/8 "2008-04-14T07:43:18Z")
“land of the free” huh? sorta reminds me of whats that thing called they US was fighting? oh thats right! _snaps fingers_ COMMUNISM! :headbang ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/9 "2008-04-14T07:44:54Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > the restrictions over is cali are insane. I think it’s against the law to upgrade anything in your engine. You can get a ticket for having an intake. Stealth installs are big in Cali for this very reason. I saw something on tv awhile ago on how cali officers are trained to see modifications. suck for them That’ crazy ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/10 "2008-04-14T07:46:41Z")
> [@votblindub](#): > > “land of the free” huh? sorta reminds me of whats that thing called they US was fighting? oh thats right! _snaps fingers_ COMMUNISM! :headbang “land of the free” doesn’t mean “go do whatever the fuck you want” ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/11 "2008-04-14T07:46:58Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > “land of the free” doesn’t mean “go do whatever the fuck you want” :rofl ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/12 "2008-04-14T07:56:17Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > I think it’s against the law to upgrade anything in your engine. Aftermarket parts have to be CARB certified, so some intakes, headers, exhausts, and even a few turbo kits are legal. The trouble is getting the car smog’d, where it has to pass this insane emissions test. The smog test is almost impossible with a swapped engine from another country, and very difficult with a USDM swap. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/13 "2008-04-14T08:25:58Z")
I want to know how they justified the half a million dollar price tag for the operation. Somebody pocketed something :ninja Lets say the operation took 24 hours overtime, 200 police officers involved making 60$ an hour on OT. Which is most likely overkill. That still comes up half way short of the tag - $288K :ponder ---
**Author:** ![thornton35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@thornton35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thornton35)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/14 "2008-04-14T08:30:53Z")
80% of the people in charge out there are corrupt… somebody sees a shortcut and nobody looking they take it. governors and blow jobs… any government official and money… should just move to canada… theres alot of land up there… ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/15 "2008-04-14T08:31:47Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > “land of the free” doesn’t mean “go do whatever the fuck you want” i didnt mean go do wahtever the fuck u want. you obv cant do things like kill ppl, but putting stuff on cars? come on! honestly now ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/16 "2008-04-14T08:33:31Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > I want to know how they justified the half a million dollar price tag for the operation. > > Somebody pocketed something :ninja > > Lets say the operation took 24 hours overtime, 200 police officers involved making 60$ an hour on OT. Which is most likely overkill. > > That still comes up half way short of the tag - $288K > > :ponder yea, that number made me wonder too. thats kind of like A LOT ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/17 "2008-04-14T08:34:04Z")
> [@LKSi](#): > > Aftermarket parts have to be CARB certified, so some intakes, headers, exhausts, and even a few turbo kits are legal. The trouble is getting the car smog’d, where it has to pass this insane emissions test. The smog test is almost impossible with a swapped engine from another country, and very difficult with a USDM swap. 70’s celicas are smog exempt ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/18 "2008-04-14T08:35:05Z")
I’m sure a lot of older cars are, it’s like registering a “classic” or an “antique” in NY, they can pretty much have whatever parts the owner wants on them. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/19 "2008-04-14T08:37:34Z")
> [@votblindub](#): > > i didnt mean go do wahtever the fuck u want. you obv cant do things like kill ppl, but putting stuff on cars? come on! honestly now They do have a point. They don’t say that you can’t go fast, you can always buy a fast sports car or a motorcycle and enjoy it that way. They also don’t say you _can’t_ modify, you can, but you have to obey the emission rules that every manufacturer has to pass, IE carb legal mods. If they allow you to do anything you wanted to your car in a SMOG restricted state, it would be unfair to everybody else who is following the rules. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415/20 "2008-04-14T08:39:37Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > They do have a point. They don’t say that you can’t go fast, you can always buy a fast sports car or a motorcycle and enjoy it that way. They also don’t say you _can’t_ modify, you can, but you have to obey the emission rules that every manufacturer has to pass, IE carb legal mods. > > If they allow you to do anything you wanted to your car in a SMOG restricted state, it would be unfair to everybody else who is following the rules. yea. i suppose ur right. at least my sound hobby isnt illegal. i can modify that as much as i want. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/riverside-ca-police-raid-car-enthusiast-gathering/236415.md?page=2)