# Roid rages, fucked Vipers, and blow outs.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 22, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417 "2010-07-22T16:20:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/241 "2010-07-25T06:57:19Z")

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id deff not be livin back at home . but id live wit someone elses parents

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/242 "2010-07-25T07:05:52Z")

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> [@lconrad"](#):
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> minus the house…but haven’t you been doing that for the past couple years??? Maybe not to the extent tony has but pretty close.
> 
> I love how everyone turns everything into money…who they got it from where they got it how they got it…who the fuck cares…to be honest with who ever…I would kill to be able to move back home… I sure as fuck would be doing the same damn thing as tony and having a good ol time doing it…
> 
> Sorry tony i’ll get off your nuts now!!!

that why i said what i did , thAT ID DO THE SAME THING BUT A LITTLE DIFF  
noone on here can say that they wouldnt do it either .

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**Author:** ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/243 "2010-07-25T07:12:40Z")

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> [@lconrad"](#):
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> **I love how everyone turns everything into money…who they got it from where they got it how they got it…who the fuck cares**

This isn’t about the money… With how much I had to spend on my van, I could easily afford a very nice car… Not a ZR1, but many others.

The money to me was in my mind the reason for the way he acts… Specially that of someone who is “spoiled”. You see it every day in 4yr old kids. And then when word spread about how he was arrested for hammering up (no pun intended) what was his best friends viper with a sledgehammer, screw driver, dirt bike, whatever it was and tossing a cinder block through the kids window of his house… Why should I show any respect for someone who’s willing to damage someone else’s property that they worked there balls off for? And if he would do that to his best friend, I know he wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. THAT is why Tony has targets on his back.

Call me a hater, call me what you want. Money is not my problem any longer…

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/244 "2010-07-25T07:14:12Z")

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oh man .

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**Author:** ![lconrad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lconrad/32/6314_2.png) [@lconrad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lconrad)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/245 "2010-07-25T07:16:00Z")

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> [@WNY Mustang Car Show 8/11 & 8/12](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-mustang-car-show-8-11-8-12/33674/18):
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> This isn’t about the money… With how much I had to spend on my van, I could easily afford a very nice car… Not a ZR1, but many others.
> 
> The money to me was in my mind the reason for the way he acts… Specially that of someone who is “spoiled”. You see it every day in 4yr old kids. And then when word spread about how he tore up what was his best friends viper with a sledgehammer, screw driver, dirt bike, whatever it was and tossing a cinder block through the kids window of his house… Why should I show any respect for someone who’s willing to damage someone else’s property that they worked there balls off for? All over some crazy mis-understanding… THAT is why Tony has targets on his back.
> 
> Call me a hater, call me what you want. Money is not my problem any longer…

I wasn’t calling you out…i was just stating…i dont know any info about the viper…not my business and dont care to know

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/246 "2010-07-25T07:16:39Z")

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Yes shift drama ftw

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/247 "2010-07-25T07:18:57Z")

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i think wheels is just tryin to get the charector out . like i said the money is icing on the cake so to speek .

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/248 "2010-07-25T08:21:22Z")

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> [@WNY Mustang Car Show 8/11 & 8/12](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-mustang-car-show-8-11-8-12/33674/18):
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> This isn’t about the money… With how much I had to spend on my van, I could easily afford a very nice car… Not a ZR1, but many others.
> 
> The money to me was in my mind the reason for the way he acts… Specially that of someone who is “spoiled”. You see it every day in 4yr old kids. And then when word spread about how he was arrested for hammering up (no pun intended) what was his best friends viper with a sledgehammer, screw driver, dirt bike, whatever it was and tossing a cinder block through the kids window of his house… Why should I show any respect for someone who’s willing to damage someone else’s property that they worked there balls off for? And if he would do that to his best friend, I know he wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. THAT is why Tony has targets on his back.
> 
> Call me a hater, call me what you want. Money is not my problem any longer…

shit just got real deep…

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**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/249 "2010-07-25T08:35:17Z")

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> [@lconrad"](#):
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> minus the house…but haven’t you been doing that for the past couple years??? Maybe not to the extent tony has but pretty close.
> 
> I love how everyone turns everything into money…who they got it from where they got it how they got it…who the fuck cares…to be honest with who ever…I would kill to be able to move back home… I sure as fuck would be doing the same damn thing as tony and having a good ol time doing it…
> 
> Sorry tony i’ll get off your nuts now!!!

Thanks Ray haahh

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/250 "2010-07-25T08:59:23Z")

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> [@Close call tonight...(speeding)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/close-call-tonight-speeding/33756/16):
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> i would have to say your also guilty of doing the same, posting about your big money wheels, seats, etc, etc…

I may post about how I have those things, but I don’t bring up how much I paid or anything like that. I also am a part of the community, and post in several other threads, not just the threads about the new shit I bought.

> [@WTB: 240 Lowering Springs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-240-lowering-springs/33722/8):
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> Now relate that back to this forum. What members do you see posting only when they get a new pair of $2000 BBS wheels, or a new Nissan GT-R, or a $300,000 house, or to just simply point fingers and ridicule somebody else? I think we may start to see some similarities here.

I’m assuming that was all pointed towards me. Just because I don’t post in every threads on the forum, doesn’t mean that I only post when I get new things. I’m mostly moderating the forum when I’m on, not posting in all threads.

> [@99FRC"](#):
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> I would love to see your and Tony’s roles reversed because you act as if you wouldn’t take the money/business if your family gave you some of it.
> 
> If you did take the money, I also promise whenever you bought a new car you would post it on Shift, because that is what we all do whenever we get a new car.

I know no one on the forum, including myself, would turn down money that would be handed to them. I didn’t even bring up how Tony got his money (yet he did mention how I got mine) as I said I don’t care. I heard several stories, but for now they’re just stories. It’s not about where he got his money, it’s about how he presents himself to the forum. I know several people see it, some others may be blind to it. In my humble opinion, Tony is a carbon copy of Travis Koch, but with money.

> [@lconrad"](#):
>
> minus the house…but haven’t you been doing that for the past couple years??? Maybe not to the extent tony has but pretty close.

I’ve dumped some money into the 911 and the Subaru and that’s really it. The GT-R’s haven’t seen many mods except stuff that was “needed.”

> [@WNY Mustang Car Show 8/11 & 8/12](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-mustang-car-show-8-11-8-12/33674/18):
>
> This isn’t about the money… With how much I had to spend on my van, I could easily afford a very nice car… Not a ZR1, but many others.
> 
> The money to me was in my mind the reason for the way he acts… Specially that of someone who is “spoiled”. You see it every day in 4yr old kids. And then when word spread about how he was arrested for hammering up (no pun intended) what was his best friends viper with a sledgehammer, screw driver, dirt bike, whatever it was and tossing a cinder block through the kids window of his house… Why should I show any respect for someone who’s willing to damage someone else’s property that they worked there balls off for? And if he would do that to his best friend, I know he wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. THAT is why Tony has targets on his back.
> 
> Call me a hater, call me what you want. Money is not my problem any longer…

+1. To me, anyone that would ever damage the personal property of someone who worked hard for what they got are scum bags. Nothing more, nothing less.

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/251 "2010-07-25T09:19:40Z")

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> [@Need some restoration recommendations!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-restoration-recommendations/33735/22):
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> +1. To me, anyone that would ever damage the personal property of someone who worked hard for what they got are scum bags. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lets make this hypothetical for a minute. Let’s say for instance that your best friend, the person you hung out with all the time, confided in, etc, slept with your girlfriend. Even if that girlfriend was a recent ex?

Would you feel betrayed? The answer is yes. Another hypothetical, if my best friend slept with my girl, keying his car wouldn’t be my only target…

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/252 "2010-07-25T09:21:44Z")

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> [@:Sigh: Uggs?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-uggs/33740/26):
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> Lets make this hypothetical for a minute. Let’s say for instance that your best friend, the person you hung out with all the time, confided in, etc, slept with your girlfriend. Even if that girlfriend was a recent ex?
> 
> Would you feel betrayed? The answer is yes. Another hypothetical, if my best friend slept with my girl, keying his car wouldn’t be my only target…

Maybe it’s just me, but someone’s personal property holds value to me as well. I don’t shit on things people earned legally. Or maybe I’m too laid back for that, I don’t know. I don’t think any physical altercations solve anything, except for assault charges.

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/253 "2010-07-25T09:25:54Z")

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> [@WTB: Reliable, Daily Driver](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-reliable-daily-driver/33652/15):
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> Maybe it’s just me, but someone’s personal property holds value to me as well. I don’t shit on things people earned legally. Or maybe I’m too laid back for that, I don’t know. I don’t think any physical altercations solve anything, except for assault charges.

It’s easy to think logically when you are outside of a situation like the one I described. I don’t care what I say, you say, what anyone says, there is no way to tell what some people will do or are capable of in a situation like that.

If you don’t beleive me look at the papers once in awhile. You see respected, well off individuals with no reason to ruin their lives KILL people over what went on in Tony’s case.

Emotions will usually win in those situation no matter how you try to justify it now.

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**Author:** ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/254 "2010-07-25T09:27:14Z")

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> [@:Sigh: Uggs?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-uggs/33740/26):
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> Lets make this hypothetical for a minute. Let’s say for instance that your best friend, the person you hung out with all the time, confided in, etc, slept with your girlfriend. Even if that girlfriend was a recent ex?
> 
> Would you feel betrayed? The answer is yes. Another hypothetical, if my best friend slept with my girl, keying his car wouldn’t be my only target…

So that makes it okay? Because in your mind that’s what you would do?

Come on man, I think better of you than that.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_GSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin_gsr/32/6412_2.png) [@Justin\_GSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin_GSR)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/255 "2010-07-25T09:27:26Z")

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> [@:Sigh: Uggs?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-uggs/33740/26):
>
> Lets make this hypothetical for a minute. Let’s say for instance that your best friend, the person you hung out with all the time, confided in, etc, slept with your girlfriend. Even if that girlfriend was a recent ex?
> 
> Would you feel betrayed? The answer is yes. Another hypothetical, if my best friend slept with my girl, keying his car wouldn’t be my only target…

i woulda put a rag in the gas filler nec lit it and run

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/256 "2010-07-25T09:32:08Z")

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> [@:Sigh: Uggs?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-uggs/33740/26):
>
> Lets make this hypothetical for a minute. Let’s say for instance that your best friend, the person you hung out with all the time, confided in, etc, slept with your girlfriend. Even if that girlfriend was a recent ex?
> 
> Would you feel betrayed? The answer is yes. Another hypothetical, if my best friend slept with my girl, keying his car wouldn’t be my only target…

So what you are saying is… ITZDADZ?

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/257 "2010-07-25T09:34:04Z")

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> [@89th PGA Championship](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/89th-pga-championship/33713/5):
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> So that makes it okay? Because in your mind that’s what you would do?
> 
> Come on man, I think better of you than that.

It’s not about that. I honestly don’t know what I would do in that situation and because of that, I can’t justify what would be right or wrong.

Again, when emotions take over, bad things usually happen. You can’t always blame the person for that.

From what I am gathering in this thread John stabbed someone with a screwdriver? Does that make any sense logically? NO. He did that out of emotion. And im not about to tell him he was right or wrong, because its possible I may have done the same thing.

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**Author:** ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/258 "2010-07-25T09:35:16Z")

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> [@99FRC"](#):
>
> It’s not about that. I honestly don’t know what I would do in that situation and because of that, I can’t justify what would be right or wrong.
> 
> Again, when emotions take over, bad things usually happen. You can’t always blame the person for that.
> 
> **From what I am gathering in this thread John stabbed someone with a screwdriver?** Does that make any sense logically? NO. He did that out of emotion. And im not about to tell him he was right or wrong, because its possible I may have done the same thing.

No, John was defending himself from GETTING stabbed by a screw driver, I can understand where you would see that because my post was worded badly.

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/259 "2010-07-25T09:35:18Z")

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> [@Anybody or know someone that works at Pepboys???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-or-know-someone-that-works-at-pepboys/33774/3):
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> So what you are saying is… ITZDADZ?

Close. URMOMZ

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/260 "2010-07-25T09:36:19Z")

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> [@Initial D This Week](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/initial-d-this-week/22051/70):
>
> No, John was defending himself from GETTING stabbed by a screw driver, I can understand where you would see that because my post was worded badly.

Ahh ok. Well the point im trying to make is still the same.

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