# Roid rages, fucked Vipers, and blow outs.

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [July 22, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417 "2010-07-22T16:20:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/141 "2010-07-24T11:08:55Z")

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I just want a ride in the Zr1. I have nothing that would keep up.

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/142 "2010-07-24T11:18:29Z")

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> [@:lol: Picture Thread v.Been A While](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-picture-thread-v-been-a-while/33738/4):
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> I just want a ride in the Zr1. I have nothing that would keep up.

this.

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/143 "2010-07-24T11:30:04Z")

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> [@FS: 1990 Audi V8 Quattro \*UPDATED With PICS\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1990-audi-v8-quattro-updated-with-pics/33597/19):
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> Hotnuts obviously started in on Tony first with the personal attacks. IMO, if you are going to make it personal, you might as well expect it to go all the way. It’s not like Tony said " Lets race you legless freak", he said, “Lets race in your van”. He could have easily meant to diss hotnuts only because hes flipping out in a street race section when he dosent even have a car to street race. You guys are just assuming the worse.
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> And im not nutswinging here, I just hate it when people start shit and make it personal, then they cry like a baby when someone says something they don’t like. Hotwheels, you started the argument, you made it personal. Deal with the consequences.

holy left testy nut swinging batman.

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### Author: ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/144 "2010-07-24T11:50:52Z")

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im pretty sure just b/c you agree with someone, or can see where they are coming from that doesnt qualify as nuts swinging…

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### Author: ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/145 "2010-07-24T11:58:03Z")

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i think we were just joshin… i was just joshin anyway

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### Author: ![Team\_Teal](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/team_teal/32/6311_2.png) [@Team\_Teal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Team_Teal)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/146 "2010-07-24T12:22:19Z")

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cool i guess we can try and plan something for next weekend if your available bc my weekend is booked.

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### Author: ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/147 "2010-07-24T12:43:35Z")

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> [@wtb:spoiler](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-spoiler/32227/3):
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> I have been in a few "higher HP rides before ('70 Camaro with twin T3/T4’s strapped to a 383 boosting about 25psi, 2000 Z28 with about 550-600 at the wheels on spray, 408 powered Dakota R/T, etc…)

I would venture to say that a properly boosted 383 @ 25psi would make much more than 700whp… Get off teh nutZ!

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### Author: ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/148 "2010-07-24T12:48:40Z")

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its not always about the rwhp#, it is the entire package, the way the power is delivered through out the curve, the gearing, the trans gearing, aerodynamics, weight etc. I clearly thought my buddies tt viper making 720/720 would kill my car, we raced when i was 610/613 and he saw nothing but tail lights and he is only 100lbs heavier and in a viper…just a little food for thaught.

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### Author: ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/149 "2010-07-24T12:57:00Z")

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Too true. The ZR1 has more usable power than 99.999% of cars on the road. And the rest are Veyrons.

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/150 "2010-07-24T13:00:53Z")

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> [@jdaniels"](#):
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> I would venture to say that a properly boosted 383 @ 25psi would make much more than 700whp… Get off teh nutZ!

agree’d.

25psi on a 383 stroker and 700rwhp is weak.

25psi with a T76 on a grand national makes those numbers and thats a 3.8L

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### Author: ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/151 "2010-07-24T13:04:35Z")

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> [@jdaniels"](#):
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> I would venture to say that a properly boosted 383 @ 25psi would make much more than 700whp… Get off teh nutZ!

> [@:Sigh: Uggs?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-uggs/33740/10):
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> agree’d.
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> 25psi on a 383 stroker and 700rwhp is weak.
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> 25psi with a T76 on a grand national makes those numbers and thats a 3.8L

now go back and read where jim stated it was 700rwhp, i think he just said he rode in that particular car, and once again its NOT always about the biggg dyno sheet.

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### Author: ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/152 "2010-07-24T13:09:32Z")

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Yeah peak numbers mean absolutely nothing. 1000 wheel Supra’s would be lucky to hang with a modded ZR1. They’d be playing catch-up from any speed.

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### Author: ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/153 "2010-07-24T13:12:34Z")

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perfect example is the zr1s on u tube against the tt gallardo. the zr1 did get beat, but it was wayyyyy under powered.

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### Author: ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/154 "2010-07-24T13:36:46Z")

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> [@New Ride - Pics!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-pics/33728/13):
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> now go back and read where jim stated it was 700rwhp, i think he just said he rode in that particular car, and once again its NOT always about the biggg dyno sheet.

It was simply for the sake of theoretical comparison and I was rounding your number up to account for the heat soak. I think I was questioning his ability to compare vehicles by a “seat of the pants” measure. I am just saying that it shouldn’t even be a comparison, and you should agree with that.

I would say that the average 383 stroker TT @ 25psi would be well over 1k whp.

1k+ \> 700, ya feel me?

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### Author: ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/155 "2010-07-24T13:37:51Z")

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Oh, and theres no question that the ZR1 is one hell of a machine. I will never question that.

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### Author: ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/156 "2010-07-24T13:42:48Z")

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> [@wtb:spoiler](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-spoiler/32227/6):
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> It was simply for the sake of theoretical comparison and I was rounding your number up to account for the heat soak. I think I was questioning his ability to compare vehicles by a “seat of the pants” measure. I am just saying that it shouldn’t even be a comparison, and you should agree with that.
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> I would say that the average 383 stroker TT @ 25psi would be well over 1k whp.
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> 1k+ \> 700, ya feel me?

i agree with most of this, but once again its all about the whole package. The viper i keep refering to is a prime example. Any betting man including myself would deffinatly think the snake would have came out on top with an extra 100/100 plus.

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### Author: ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/157 "2010-07-24T13:42:55Z")

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LS based motors make excellent power throughout… not just some fancy peak numbers.

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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/158 "2010-07-24T13:45:03Z")

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Tony check ur PM box!

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### Author: ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/159 "2010-07-24T13:45:17Z")

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> [@Domestic quality article v. Buick](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/23):
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> LS based motors make excellent power throughout… not just some fancy peak numbers.

especially when there is a 2.3 liter ROOTS type blower on the top of it w/ 15+ lbs.

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### Author: ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roid-rages-fucked-vipers-and-blow-outs/253417/160 "2010-07-24T13:46:03Z")

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Can’t forget the “Driver Mod” part of the package!

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