# Roundabouts? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 13, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135 "2011-01-13T12:55:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/1 "2011-01-13T12:55:04Z")
Love 'em or hate 'em? I love them. Everyone approaches them like they’re scarred and don’t know what to do, which leaves room for me to zoom on by. This dual roundabout at Kensington & Harlem is my favorite: [map]2002 Kensington Avenue, Buffalo, NY[/map] ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/2 "2011-01-13T12:56:05Z")
There was a research article that was posted a while back about how much safer they are than any other type of intersection. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/3 "2011-01-13T12:56:45Z")
Some urban planner found out about this technology and started putting them everywhere. There are the two on Harlem…one out by the hamburg fair grounds and then somewhere else. ---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:56 PM ---------- > [@Freek](#): > > There was a research article that was posted a while back about how much safer they are than any other type of intersection. Maybe safer = less likely to die from accident ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/4 "2011-01-13T12:57:45Z")
I live right by that one and have had so many near misses from people not knowing WTF to do. Also at rush hour sometimes you end up either shoehorning your way in or waiting forever. However along with the one at Cleveland it did stop Harlem from backing up due to red lights, so I’m somewhere between love and hate. ---
**Author:** ![jeffthespasm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeffthespasm/32/3153_2.png) [@jeffthespasm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jeffthespasm)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/5 "2011-01-13T12:58:33Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Some urban planner found out about this technology and started putting them everywhere. > > There are the two on Harlem…one out by the hamburg fair grounds and then somewhere else. > > ---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:56 PM ---------- > > Maybe safer = less likely to die from accident Based on my experiences with 4-way stops, I’d say they’re safer because it’s less likely someone is going to be an asshat/not pay attention and t-bone you. Love 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/6 "2011-01-13T12:59:41Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > I live right by that one and have had so many near misses from people not knowing WTF to do. Also at rush hour sometimes you end up either shoehorning your way in or waiting forever. However along with the one at Cleveland it did stop Harlem from backing up due to red lights, so I’m somewhere between love and hate. there are 3 in hamburg. i love them, and i have soooo many stories about crazy shit i have seen while navigating them here is a story i posted a while ago on another forum - > [@More pics \*have a nice day 56k\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-pics-have-a-nice-day-56k/12303/3): > > so after my parents going away party tonight, i came home and went to bed. i was tuckered. at about 1:00 am some friends called me and dragged me, kicking and screaming, to jp’s. (jk i went willingly) > > so we get there, and we’re sitting on the back deck drinking whiskey when we hear a screech and a muffled boom from the big clark st / buffalo st roundabout. > > we all turn and look just in time to see a car drive straight through the roundabout at about 30 mph, and smash directly into the statue in the center. words cannot describe the collision, the way the rear end lifted off of the ground, and the smoke and madness that ensued… either way a few people ran over trying to help, i pulled out my phone and called 911 thinking someone died > > apparently dude jumped out of the car, ripped off his plates (thinking that would help at all?) and ran down south park towards tops. i’m assuming he was mildly concussed, because he only made it to the parking lot before collapsing… > > it works out well, bc someone hit said statue a year or two ago from the other direction, and the slight angle it was sitting at was bothering me. glad to see everything evens out in the end ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/7 "2011-01-13T13:02:20Z")
That particular double one causes problems cause if someone is signaling right they could be talking about 4 different right turns. If you assume they’re taking one and pull out before you actually see their car commit, bad things happen. Doesn’t help that one block down Kensington at the 290-Main St-Kensington intersection is crash central. One cool thing: The sign for it made the NYS driver’s manual. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/8 "2011-01-13T13:03:20Z")
There is a better round about over by Aero drive right past the tunnel…Its still under construction and people have noooo clue what do. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/9 "2011-01-13T13:06:42Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > There is a better round about over by Aero drive right past the tunnel…Its still under construction and people have noooo clue what do. i drive it every day, people in the roundabout stop and wave me on, i get so angry, youre fucking up the whole system! ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/10 "2011-01-13T13:08:21Z")
I prefer to view them as chicanes. ---
**Author:** ![Terry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/terry/32/7207_2.png) [@Terry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Terry)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/11 "2011-01-13T13:11:42Z")
I have 2 on the way to work…neither are very busy so it’s not like you really have to wait or worry about what other drivers are doing so usually they’re fun to fly around. On the other hand when they are busy they’re a cluster because most people don’t know what to do. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/12 "2011-01-13T13:32:54Z")
> [@Geoff](#): > > I prefer to view them as chicanes. Ha, I was thinking the same thing when I hit that new one behind UB the other day with no one around. Just a little flick/flick and you’re coming out the other side in a nice little drift. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Multisynclg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/multisynclg/32/5328_2.png) [@Multisynclg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Multisynclg)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/13 "2011-01-13T13:58:59Z")
> [@Geoff](#): > > I prefer to view them as chicanes. +1 ahhah ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/14 "2011-01-13T14:03:47Z")
Lol, I take Harlem to my gfs house, I loveeeeeee taking the two roundabouts. ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/15 "2011-01-13T15:09:57Z")
my whole neighbourhood is full of them. new houses ftw ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/16 "2011-01-13T15:16:04Z")
Love em, but they dont work in the states. People are far too thick. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/17 "2011-01-13T15:16:48Z")
> [@Geoff](#): > > I prefer to view them as chicanes. I LOVE it when they have soft curbs on the inside, really makes taking an aggressive line fun! ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/18 "2011-01-13T15:49:28Z")
Been through that double one on Harlem once, that thing is crazy. I drive through hamburg every day and they work really well. How about the big one on delaware in front of city hall? It actually has lights in the middle of it and stop signs at the entrances, kinda defeats the purpose. There is never traffic there either, I don’t know how rush hour is though. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/19 "2011-01-13T16:03:06Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > Love em, but they dont work in the states. People are far too thick. Shut up you wannabe Canadian. People just have to adjust to them. The last couple times I’ve been to the Gun Center the one’s on Harlem are running really smooth now. It takes way less time to drive down Harlem than it did with the lights. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135/20 "2011-01-13T16:37:12Z")
So much better than sitting at a light. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roundabouts/208135.md?page=2)