# Rusty Is No More :(

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [April 11, 2011, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828 "2011-04-11T10:53:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/41 "2011-04-11T13:18:24Z")

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Wow… thats really too bad, saw this car at H20i and it was pretty badass.

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**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/42 "2011-04-11T13:20:32Z")

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> [@Well bolstered seats? Stockish? for 240z](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-bolstered-seats-stockish-for-240z/41125/6):
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> WTF in the video what the deal with the camera equipment set up right infront of the garage. also if it was such a quick ignition how did they have time to go in the garage get a car out and also have time to close the garage doors???

well to play devils advocate. the guy documents everything he does to any of his cars (see the rusty build thread) so that would be the camera equipment. if he did just fab up a harness to run the motor on the ground, he def. would have taken pictures. as far as the garage door, i would assume they closed it thinking it would give the fire a little less oxygen. and the car, i have no answer for…

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/43 "2011-04-11T13:43:44Z")

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> [@I wondered why the Frisbee was getting bigger, and then it hit me](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-wondered-why-the-frisbee-was-getting-bigger-and-then-it-hit-me/41124/12):
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> This is very sad to see he had alot of time into that project. :Idiots

That is why i feel a little bad for, if it was all a honest oppsie.

> [@Local spoiled chick to be on tv](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/local-spoiled-chick-to-be-on-tv/40984/63):
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> i remember seeing that at h20, some presence that car had. sad to see if go, maybe hell have some sort of new and improved version2 of the car eventually

Not that car. Seam seal melts with a heat gun, ask me how I dont this, its all over Darryls floor under the jetta from welding. All the seam seal melted/burnt out for sure… so all the panels are spot welded together, and that makes for a very flimsy car. Dont say well perfect then, great time to stitch weld it all and make it better than evar! Metallurgy 101, the heat produced by a car fire is going to piss off that sheet metal the entire car (unibody) is made from. crush it and call it a day.

> [@swaiknow"](#):
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> well to play devils advocate. the guy documents everything he does to any of his cars (see the rusty build thread) so that would be the camera equipment. if he did just fab up a harness to run the motor on the ground, he def. would have taken pictures. as far as the garage door, i would assume they closed it thinking it would give the fire a little less oxygen. and the car, i have no answer for…

see bold bellow and my response:

> [@Local spoiled chick to be on tv](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/local-spoiled-chick-to-be-on-tv/40984/65):
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> and engine, that was also pretty nice lol.
> 
> I doubt youd get much insurance from a car that was already totaled once and was currently in pieces. Also proving value of rare wheels would be pretty difficult and probably would get much for the handful of sets he had. **And he was renting, so unless he had renters insurance he gets nothing.**

if that’s true not only would HE not be getting insurance money for the loss(s), he might end up getting sue’d depending on what the lease agreement was and what kind of landlord owns the property. Now he could have insurance on the car, and even added value insurance on the car over stock value, sure.

If he is renting for real, VERY RARELY do landlords allow you to use a garage like that; Welders, Plasma cutters, torches, lots of electricity, flammable chemicals, etc. Heck most places you rent don’t want you storing lawn mowers or fuel jugs inside the building, for this reason here. Again, if he is renting maybe it was agreed upon, and hopefully on paper, shoving the “blame” to the landlord.

I would be interested to see how this pans out in a few weeks.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/44 "2011-04-11T13:54:02Z")

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If he rebuilds or opens up his own garage after this, then I call foul play.

Otherwise unfortunate circumstances of events that had something to do with polar caps shifting and the suns hot spots.

In for updates/self proclaimed experts on this and other sites. :ohnoes

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/45 "2011-04-11T13:58:40Z")

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> [@Local spoiled chick to be on tv](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/local-spoiled-chick-to-be-on-tv/40984/65):
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> and engine, that was also pretty nice lol.

idk what he had for a motor.

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**Author:** ![Average\_Jerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Average\_Jerk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Average_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/46 "2011-04-11T13:59:34Z")

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> [@2008 Lamborghini LP640 vs 1200RWHP Toyota Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2008-lamborghini-lp640-vs-1200rwhp-toyota-supra/41126/16):
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> If he rebuilds or opens up his own garage after this, then I call foul play.
> 
> Otherwise unfortunate circumstances of events that had something to do with polar caps shifting and the suns hot spots.
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> In for updates/self proclaimed experts on this and other sites. :ohnoes

I would definitely expect to see this garage rebuilt and another project from him at some point in the future. But who knows how long that will take. At least he still has other nice cars he can drive around in. Not the same status that his E28 had though, but his E36 is pretty dope :tongue

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**Author:** ![Average\_Jerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Average\_Jerk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Average_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/47 "2011-04-11T13:59:48Z")

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> [@FS: 1991 Audi 90 Quattro 5cyl. 20v](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1991-audi-90-quattro-5cyl-20v/40060/29):
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> idk what he had for a motor.

1JZGTE

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/48 "2011-04-11T13:59:51Z")

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> [@2008 Lamborghini LP640 vs 1200RWHP Toyota Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2008-lamborghini-lp640-vs-1200rwhp-toyota-supra/41126/16):
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> If he rebuilds or opens up his own garage after this, then I call foul play.
> 
> Otherwise unfortunate circumstances of events that had something to do with polar caps shifting and the suns hot spots.
> 
> In for updates/self proclaimed experts on this and other sites. :ohnoes

I am a know it all! WOOT. honestly though, someone please go home and “hydro lock” their motor with fuel! Then go pull a plug and turn it over and tell me where the fuel goes. Hell I did that plenty of times with water getting sucked in off road. the water hit the bottom of the hood. You can stand next to it and unless its windy not get wet.

want to get technical, how many CC’s are each cylinder? Then how much are in there at compression IE when hydrolock might occur. Take that amount of fuel and dump it into a cup. Take said cut and throw it at a spark, see what happens. Heck throw it at a match. DOUBT it will be very impressive at all! I dont see how said fire would go from point A, to point B, down the spot of point B’s 5 gal container (unless its not capped off, hot out and the fuel container has vapor coming out of it, in which case your a complete ass hole for even having it in a building).

Ill eat my words if its proved otherwise. until then KK calls BULLSHIT.

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**Author:** ![Average\_Jerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Average\_Jerk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Average_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/49 "2011-04-11T14:04:14Z")

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> [@So who wants to take credit for this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-who-wants-to-take-credit-for-this/41118/16):
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> I am a know it all! WOOT. honestly though, someone please go home and “hydro lock” their motor with fuel! Then go pull a plug and turn it over and tell me where the fuel goes. Hell I did that plenty of times with water getting sucked in off road. the water hit the bottom of the hood. You can stand next to it and unless its windy not get wet.
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> want to get technical, how many CC’s are each cylinder? Then how much are in there at compression IE when hydrolock might occur. Take that amount of fuel and dump it into a cup. Take said cut and throw it at a spark, see what happens. Heck throw it at a match. DOUBT it will be very impressive at all! I dont see how said fire would go from point A, to point B, down the spot of point B’s 5 gal container (unless its not capped off, hot out and the fuel container has vapor coming out of it, in which case your a complete ass hole for even having it in a building).
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> Ill eat my words if its proved otherwise. until then KK calls BULLSHIT.

But if the engine is not in the car, it would go whichever way the head is aimed. yes?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/50 "2011-04-11T14:04:50Z")

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This sounds like a job for

Mythbusters!

(or KK doing a proof of concept in his garage :ninja )

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/51 "2011-04-11T14:13:59Z")

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at least that intake manifold survived…???

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/52 "2011-04-11T15:15:24Z")

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kinda shitty but really nbd, people are reallyyyyy blowing this up like the guy died lol. the e36 is cooler anyways

edit: who is this on stanceworks? location is “518, NY”

> [@Anyone work at a Ski/board shop???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-work-at-a-ski-board-shop/22954/25):
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> Damn, this is like an end of an era in the car world. Rusty was one of the most controversial and imo epic builds I have ever seen. It broke a lot of molds in the BMW world, between the rust, the going bags, chopped roof, and everything, this cars been to hell and back, and went out in flames. Even though we lost an icon of the car world with this car, we still have the master mind behind it and all those who were involved in the building, its a miracle under those conditions that nobody else was injured what so ever. A structure and a car can be rebuilt, a life is a one time shot that can never be regained once lost. Im sure whatever Mike decides to do from here on out will be insane. Hes been one to push the boundries with his builds so far, now to see where he goes from here will be a great journey. Youve got a while community behind you to support you here Mike, we wish you all the best, and whatever help we can give you, Im more than sure that the community will put forth whatever they can, whether monetary or emotionally.  
> -Matt

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/53 "2011-04-11T15:21:47Z")

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> [@omg how siq does Killzone look!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-how-siq-does-killzone-look/41074/26):
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> kinda shitty but really nbd, people are reallyyyyy blowing this up like the guy died lol. the e36 is cooler anyways
> 
> edit: who is this on stanceworks? location is “518, NY”

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/54 "2011-04-11T16:30:26Z")

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looks the same to me? what’s the problem?

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**Author:** ![Mark355](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mark355/32/6528_2.png) [@Mark355](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mark355)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/55 "2011-04-11T16:44:15Z")

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> [@omg how siq does Killzone look!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-how-siq-does-killzone-look/41074/26):
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> who is this on stanceworks? location is “518, NY”

Almost too well-written and earnest from a 518er.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/56 "2011-04-11T17:22:17Z")

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🤣rofl:rofl

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**Author:** ![bwe45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bwe45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bwe45)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/57 "2011-04-11T17:29:38Z")

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> [@omg how siq does Killzone look!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-how-siq-does-killzone-look/41074/26):
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> kinda shitty but really nbd, people are reallyyyyy blowing this up like the guy died lol. the e36 is cooler anyways
> 
> edit: who is this on stanceworks? location is “518, NY”

Thats me, actually idk why mine says 518 NY tbh…im gonna go fix that

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/58 "2011-04-11T17:40:59Z")

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Shut up and go flip some delicious burgers.

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**Author:** ![nico\_butcher](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nico_butcher/32/6691_2.png) [@nico\_butcher](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nico_butcher)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/59 "2011-04-11T17:41:35Z")

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dude that sucks, well good thing everyones ok. maybe if the the hood and fenders are still intact when they allow you to get it out, you could use that for some kind of inspiration for another if you ever decide to do it again.

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**Author:** ![Average\_Jerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Average\_Jerk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Average_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rusty-is-no-more/257828/60 "2011-04-11T17:43:15Z")

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> [@OSYN Updates: NYSpeed Spring BBQ @ Dunnville, Volume 2 DVD Teaser](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/osyn-updates-nyspeed-spring-bbq-dunnville-volume-2-dvd-teaser/41137/3):
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> dude that sucks, well good thing everyones ok. maybe if the the hood and fenders are still intact when they allow you to get it out, you could use that for some kind of inspiration for another if you ever decide to do it again.

Not the OPs car…

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